Oasis 3 auto brightness

[Like_to_read]

I purchased a new Oasis 3 but am perplexed by the auto brightness feature

Unlike an AMOLED cell phone, I would EXPECT this type of auto brightness behavior on Kindle
- Brightness turns low in bright light
- Brightness adjusts based on user level to mids in dim room

Instead the ACTUAL behavior is
- Brightness on auto is too low in dim room
- Brightness turns all the way to max in bright daylight when I would prefer no backlight


This is the inverse of what I would expect.

Is there any way to change the behavior and if not, a way to cause lights to only turn on say between 8:00pm and 8:00am (as is possible for warmth settings)?

Thanks

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Like_to_read

I purchased a new Oasis 3 but am perplexed by the auto brightness feature

Unlike an AMOLED cell phone, I would EXPECT this type of auto brightness behavior on Kindle
- Brightness turns low in bright light
- Brightness adjusts based on user level to mids in dim room

Instead the ACTUAL behavior is
- Brightness on auto is too low in dim room
- Brightness turns all the way to max in bright daylight when I would prefer no backlight


This is the inverse of what I would expect.

Is there any way to change the behavior and if not, a way to cause lights to only turn on say between 8:00pm and 8:00am (as is possible for warmth settings)?

Thanks

You can "train" your Kindle, to an extent. Adjust the light every time you don't like the default. It should learn your preferences that way, in time. How well or fast, I've no idea, because I have no patience for such things myself. I just adjust the light manually, always.

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Tried "training" it. However their algorithm only works in one direction.

If I set brightness to 1 in a very bright room, that's the max level.

If I go in a dim room room and change brightness to 12 as an example, brightness will go up to 18 in a bright room. Training is only in 1 direction.

They have used the same algorithm as an AMOLED phone - super bright in the sun, dim in the darkness. Need the exact opposite for a Kindle. Surprising basic flaw.

When it's bright and sunny, there is no need for a backlight on the Kindle.

However since this is all software - if more people complain, they may actually fix it. Would encourage others who feel the same to send messages to Kindle's twitter page at https://twitter.com/AmazonKindle

[Deskisamess]

You don't want a frontlit device super bright in a dark room. It would be blinding. The darker the room, the lower the light can be set. When I read in a dark bedroom, I start about 12 on my Kindles, and turn it down more as my eyes adjust. I usually end up at about 7.

I agree about the sunshine, the light isn't necessary at all then. But that said, I never use auto-brightness on any of my devices.

I'm not fussing about anything on social media. When I have real issues with Amazon, I Contact Amazon CS directly.

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Originally Posted by Deskisamess

You don't want a frontlit device super bright in a dark room. It would be blinding. The darker the room, the lower the light can be set. When I read in a dark bedroom, I start about 12 on my Kindles, and turn it down more as my eyes adjust. I usually end up at about 7.

I agree about the sunshine, the light isn't necessary at all then. But that said, I never use auto-brightness on any of my devices.

I'm not fussing about anything on social media. When I have real issues with Amazon, I Contact Amazon CS directly.

I know that. I never said that I want it super bright in a dim room. However now with auto brightness, it's 1 or 2 in a dim room at night making it unreadable.

That makes the feature unusable.

Would ask other who agree with me to contact Amazon Twitter - however completely understand if the feature works for you as is.

[Deskisamess]

That makes the feature unusable

I think of it more as an option I don't choose to use.

[Like_to_read]

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

I think of it more as an option I don't choose to use.

All features are options. No one needs to tinker with any option/ feature on a Kindle and can use default settings. However that would defeat the purpose of buying a Kindle

Again, the post is for other people who want it to work the way I do. Completely understand if you are happy with it the way it is. That's the great thing about Kindle - everyone can adjust it to their preferences.

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

You don't want a frontlit device super bright in a dark room. It would be blinding. The darker the room, the lower the light can be set. When I read in a dark bedroom, I start about 12 on my Kindles, and turn it down more as my eyes adjust. I usually end up at about 7.

I agree about the sunshine, the light isn't necessary at all then. But that said, I never use auto-brightness on any of my devices.

I'm not fussing about anything on social media. When I have real issues with Amazon, I Contact Amazon CS directly.

Ditto. Although I do use auto-brightness.

[cats2books]

I adjust the brightness manually. I find the auto brightness really annoying. I have a reading lamp next to my comfy chair. Every time I turn in a different direction the brightness on the Oasis will change.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by cats2books

I adjust the brightness manually. I find the auto brightness really annoying. I have a reading lamp next to my comfy chair. Every time I turn in a different direction the brightness on the Oasis will change.

Exactly why I don't use auto brightness on any device.

Shari

[patrickt]

I'm 78 and facing cataract surgery and regardless of the ambient light my Paperwhite is set to maximum. I had an Oasis 3, turned off the auto brightness, and then returned the Oasis 3.

[Skydog]

I must be the oddball exception. My Oasis 3 (and other Kindles, for that matter) has been "trained" to my preferences and honors them. The only exception would be outdoors in full sun, which I would expect, but is certainly not annoying.

[Deskisamess]

My vision needs aren't static, what works today may not work tomorrow. Some days I need larger fonts, some days I need wider line spacing, etc. The same goes for the lighting I may need.

[Alborghetti]

Originally Posted by Skydog

Ditto. Although I do use auto-brightness.

Me too. Adding my two cents here: I "trained" my O2 to be at brightness level 5 in a completely dark room, which is the way I like to read. So when I turn of my lamp, the brightness goes down slowly but never goes lower than 5. Which, for me, is a pretty good behavior. In bright sunlight I can't care less if the brightness is maxed out. I don't really believe it is going to reduce battery charge duration, and in my usage it is pretty rare that I would read in direct sunlight.

But I agree that the algorithm should have an upper cap where it would turn off the light. Maybe people that read a lot in the sun get reduced battery charge duration.

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I am curious what brightness settings do you and other use to read at night.

In a room with indirect lighting (a few 60 w equivalent lamps), I use warmth of 23-24 and brightness of 11-13