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View Poll Results: e-ink screen failed,lifetime=???
screen failed,lifetime<1year(<720hrs,if read 2hrs/day ) 1 6.25%
screen failed,lifetime<1.5years(<1080hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<2years(<1440hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<2.5years(<1800hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<3years(<2160hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<3.5years(<2520hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<4years(<2880hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<4.5years(<3240hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<5years(<3600hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<5.5years(<3960hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<6years(<4320hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<6.5years(<4680hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<7years(<5040hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<7.5years(<5400hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<8years(<5760hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<8.5years(<6120hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<9years(<6480hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<9.5years(<6840hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime<10years(<7200hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 0 0%
screen failed,lifetime>10years(>7200hrs,if read 2hrs/day) 3 18.75%
else 12 75.00%
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:58 AM   #1
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lifetime of Kindle screen(e-ink display)

Any idea of the expected lifetime of Kindle screen (e-ink display)?

Eink.com says “Over 90% of E Ink screen displays will last more than 10 years with typical usage”, but Amazon says that the average life of the device is estimated to be 3 years.

One guy says ”I wouldn't expect e-ink screens to last forever but I would have hoped to get more than 18 months out of one……Spoke to Amazon and they wouldn't give me a free replacement as it was 18 months old and out of warranty but they offered me for £50. Better than nothing I suppose.”

Another guy says” I'm on my 3rd kindle due to this issue. Both of my first 2 had this same issue with the screen. I had my first one replaced FOC as it was in warranty. The 2nd one was out of warranty. I have no idea why both of them failed. But if this 3rd one goes the same way, i won't buy another one.”

I've not seen any reports of lifetime of e-ink screen display.......

Occasionally, I get some authoritative data of reliability test (e-ink 9.7inch screen):
High-Temperature Operation; temperature+50°C, Relative humidity 30% for 240 hrs; Electric,mechanical, and optical specifications shall be satisfied.

Low-Temperature Operation; temperature 0°C , for 240 hrs ; Electric,mechanical, and optical specifications shall be satisfied.

High-Temperature Storage; temperature +70°C , Relative humidity23% for 240 hrs; Electric,mechanical, and optical specifications shall be satisfied.

Low-Temperature Storage; temperature -25°C , for 240 hrs; Electric,mechanical, and optical specifications shall be satisfied.

Stylus Tapping; POLYACETAL Pen: Top radius: 0.8mm 300grams-force Speed:2times/sec Total 13,500times; no glass breakage or damage to microcapsules.

Obviously, the criteria of passing reliability test are very low, and if you click on the screen 100times/day, the lifetime of this e-ink 9.7inch screen is a little longer than 135 days.
Who can tell me the truth? thanks
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:36 AM   #2
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Most of screen issues are caused by mechanical damage. If you don't use Kindle in some extreme temperatures don't worry about screen lifespan.

Screens used in Kindle 1 (10 years old) are still working correctly.

Also use default font size in your posts.

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Old 11-26-2017, 06:48 AM   #3
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Eink.com says “Over 90% of E Ink screen displays will last more than 10 years with typical usage”, but Amazon says that the average life of the device is estimated to be 3 years.
Battery life, rather than screen life, is the limiting factor for readers. Where do Amazon say that the average lifetime is three years?
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:18 AM   #4
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You need more choices on your poll. And more than one duplicate.

I expect mine to last more than 20 years. Unfortunately, I may not last more than 20 years.
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:35 AM   #5
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I have several Kindles,including K2, K3 and K4, and I've never had any kind of screen failure.
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:49 AM   #6
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My 2nd gen Kindle is still perfect as far as the screen. We’ve only had one spontaneous screen failure, and that was the first Paperwhite Amazon released. The device was a little over 3 years old at the time. I had given it to a friend of mine, so don’t know is pressure or torque was involved.
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:05 AM   #7
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:42 AM   #8
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Never had a screen failure, and we have K2, KK, KB, KP 1, 2, 3, KDXG, KV, KOA2.
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:52 AM   #9
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My first kindle I bought in 2008. The K1. Its screen is still as it was on the first day. Of course, I don't use it anymore now, other than charging it like once a month so I can stare at the shiny bar in awe. But when I did use it, I read about 450 books on that thing until I got the Keyboard in 2010. So it was used heavily. I also still have the keyboard, I have a basic button, a voyage a old oasis and they all still work fine.
But I have also never dropped a kindle, sat on it or stuffed them into a rucksack with other stuff next to.
If they go into a bag, they are covered and carefully placed there with no other bumps or sharp edges around them. I guess I treat them like they were made of thin glass.

I expect the batteries to go down long before the screen. My K1 is one a replacement battery as it was the only one were I could do that. But it does show its age in other parts now. The sticky wheel, the 3G is wonky, etc.
My keyboard is now 7 years old and it still holds a charge, although since I don't use it to read, I can't say how long it would last, but now it still lasts for weeks until I charge it again. Same with my basic button which is I think 5 years old.

They all last long past the time before I see another new shiny thing on the horizon.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:10 PM   #12
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I’ve had several e-ink devices going back to the Sony 505 and have never had a screen failure (looking around for some wood to knock on)...
As HarryT said—it’s batteries that will fail first. I still have my 505 and charge every so often. Battery only lasts about 1-2 hours on a charge now. Both my Sony 350 and 650 show signs of battery degradation, but I can still get a decent amount of hours out of them—probably 4-6.
I gave my Kindle Paperwhite to a friend after a three or four years of use and it is still going strong for her.
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You need more choices on your poll. And more than one duplicate.

I expect mine to last more than 20 years. Unfortunately, I may not last more than 20 years.
I'm not going ANYWHERE! Death is just giving in to peer pressure!
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