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KA1 crazy sort order for Author
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![]() I'm in the mood to read some Stephen King, so I've put some of his books on my reader. To be able to see series, I have Calibre append the series at the end of the author's name, like so: Lastname, Firstname - Series name 01. (Author name and author sort are both set as "Lastname, Firstname".) However, the KA1 sorts like this, when choosing "Sort by Author": King, Stephen - Bill Hodges 01 King, Stephen - The Dark Tower 01 King, Stephen - The Shining 01 King, Stephen - Bill Hodges 02 King, Stephen - The Dark Tower 02 King, Stephen - The Shining 02 What the hell... That's not the right sort order. (I also noticed that the KA1 refuses to display () in the author's name, for example.) Any insights? I've been used to using the author name space for series, so I can sort on author and series at the same time on the Kindle, and I'd like to do the same on the KA1. |
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Edit: it seems to have something to do with the comma, and/or spaces around the hyphen. It looks like the reader tries to create its own author sort, instead of just using the entire string.
edit: even replacing comma-space (", ") with an underscore, as I did with the Kindle, changes nothing. I've replaced it in Authors as well as Author_Sort. Maybe the Kobo also removes "_" for space, and then does its own sorting. edit: I've put the series in the title, like so: Series Name 01 - Book Title. The reader just ignores everything before the hyphen. Why does this have to be so difficult?! Last edited by Katsunami; 01-08-2017 at 04:49 PM. |
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As of now, it doesn't even put the number of pages behind the title anymore; a part of the plugboard that has been working for ages, and hasn't been touched.
edit1: came to the conclusion that it was actually the EPUB plugboard making the changes, even though I have the Extended driver convert the file to KEPUB. edit2: Replacing comma-space by underscore makes the KA1 hang when going to the book list. Using author:swap_around_comma() reverses "LN, FN" into "FN LN", but then the reader ignores everything after LN. Last edited by Katsunami; 01-08-2017 at 05:50 PM. |
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Of coarse, if you convert the book to kepub first and send that, the kepub plugboard is used. Quote:
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But, it looks like something has changed with sorting, so I'll have to have a play and see what is going on. Could you post the metadata plugboards you are using? That will help to make sure we are doing the same thing. |
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I've been changing the KEPUB plugboard which is why the changes did not show up, or nothing changed. Months ago I made an EPUB and a KEPUB plugboard because I ddin't know yet what I wanted to use.
I didn't know I had to change the EPUB plugboard for the changes to take effect even if you have the driver convert the book. |
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{series:|| }{series_index:0>2s|| - }{title}{#pages:| (|)} It works. The KA1 has enough space (two lines) to show the series and te title. The kindle cuts the title short, which is why I put the series in the authors field on that reader. |
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The author sort also treats the word "and" as an indicator of multiple authors, so any series including the word "and" is likely to cause problemm. There might be other special words like this.
I think putting the series name in the author field is just asking for trouble. Edit: E.g. if you included "The Adventures of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves" in the author field, when the Kobo sorts by author it would parse that into something like "White, The Adventures of Snow and Dwarves, the Seven". Last edited by GeoffR; 01-08-2017 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Example of how Kobo treats "and" in author sort |
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Maybe it would be worthwhile to put a sticky or something somewhere that you need to create an EPUB plugboard if you have the KA1 Extended driver doing the converting. As Davidfor said, Calibre is sending an EPUB, and thus uses the EPUB plugboard. It took me a few tries to realize that. |
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If you have a rule that works for the KA1 and another for the KPW you can make the plugboard rules device dependent. Of course you will have different names on different devices then.
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I already did so.
The Kindle turns everything into FN LN without a comma, but I don't like that. I like it less if a name is displayed FN LN, but sorted by last name. On the Kindle, I've got a plugboard that creates the following: Book Title (315) Lastname_Firstname (Name of Series 01) On the KA1, the plugboard does this: Name of Series 01 - Book Title (315) Lastname, Firstname In both cases, the books are sorted by author last name and then by Series when I select to sort by author. Good enough for me ![]() |
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