spell-checker French

roger64 · 05-27-2016, 03:30 AM

Hi

I have been using for some years with LibreOfice and the Calibre Editor the following spell-checker dictionary downloaded from this site: (see on the left side of the link).
http://www.dicollecte.org/grammalecte/telecharger.php

The full name of the file is: lo-oo-ressources-linguistiques-fr-v5.6.oxt
It's frequently updated and up to now it's the most advanced opensource spell-checker tool in French.

I tried to install it just to realize that it did not seem to be working with Sigil (unless I did some mistake, which is quite possible..). As I can use it elsewhere, namely with the Calibre Editor, I just wished to signal it.

I know you have a lot of other priorities and it's probably more useful to break new ground (like for Epub3) than rushing to duplicate some functionalities we can find easily elsewhere.

Doitsu · 05-27-2016, 08:17 AM

AFAIK, Sigil uses its own spelling dictionaries and searches for them in the following locations:

Windows:

Code:

%LOCALAPPDATA%\sigil-ebook\sigil\hunspell_dictionaries

%PROGRAMFILES%\Sigil\hunspell_dictionaries

(These special folder names can be entered in the Windows Run dialog box.)

Linux:

Code:

~/.local/share/sigil-ebook/sigil/hunspell_dictionaries/

/usr/local/share/sigil/hunspell_dictionaries/

I.e., you'll have to check these folders for French spellcheck dictionaries and replace them with your preferred dictionaries.

If your preferred dictionary is GPL licensed, KevinH might even include them in one of the next builds, if you ask him for it.

D.

KevinH · 05-27-2016, 09:21 AM

Yes an oxt is simply a zip with OOo extra pieces. So rename it to .zip and pull out the actual dictionary (both .aff and .dic files) and add them to your user dictionary location so Sigil can find them.

roger64 · 05-27-2016, 03:58 PM

With some additional help from Doitsu,

done and working.

I can select now any of the four French dictionaries offered.

Thanks to both for your help and explanations.

eschwartz · 05-27-2016, 04:51 PM

If you are using my sigil-git package from the Arch Linux AUR, Sigil will use the *.aff and *.dic dictionaries installed in /usr/share/hunspell/

roger64 · 05-28-2016, 03:10 PM

I do not have any folder named /usr/share/hunspell.

For me Sigil uses the four .aff and .dic files I put in the "hunspell dictionaries" folder of the Sigil preferences.

DiapDealer · 05-28-2016, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger64

I do not have any folder named /usr/share/hunspell.

Then you didn't install some of the suggested packages that the sigil-git install specified. Like hunspell-(en|fr|es) and/or hyphen-(en|fr|es).

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger64

For me Sigil uses the four .aff and .dic files I put in the "hunspell dictionaries" folder of the Sigil preferences.

It will work both ways. Any system dictionaries installed in /usr/share/hunspell and /usr/share/hyphen will be available, as will any user dictionaries installed in the user's Sigil preferences location (~/.local/share/sigil-ebook/sigil/hunspell_dictionaries/).

eschwartz's sigil-git package does not use the source-included hunspell dictionaries (cmake -DINSTALL_BUNDLED_DICTS=0 option). The system hunspell dics (installable via pacman|yaourt) are made available to Sigil via the SIGIL_DICTIONARIES environment variable instead.

The hunspell_dictionaries folder in the user's Sigil preference folder is always included in the dictionary search path regardless. That's why it's still working for you.

roger64 · 05-28-2016, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Then you didn't install some of the suggested packages that the sigil-git install specified. Like hunspell-(en|fr|es) and/or hyphen-(en|fr|es).

It will work both ways. Any system dictionaries installed in /usr/share/hunspell and /usr/share/hyphen will be available, as will any user dictionaries installed in the user's Sigil preferences location (~/.local/share/sigil-ebook/sigil/hunspell_dictionaries/).

eschwartz's sigil-git package does not use the source-included hunspell dictionaries (cmake -DINSTALL_BUNDLED_DICTS=0 option). The system hunspell dics (installable via pacman|yaourt) are made available to Sigil via the SIGIL_DICTIONARIES environment variable instead.

The hunspell_dictionaries folder in the user's Sigil preference folder is always included in the dictionary search path regardless. That's why it's still working for you.

Thanks for your info. I failed to see these informations and now I will install in /usr/share/hyphen the hyphenation files I did not know where to put.

DiapDealer · 05-28-2016, 05:50 PM

That said ... I'm not entirely certain that Sigil will actually implement the hyphen dictionaries. Kevin (or maybe eschwartz--who modified his sigil-git package to look to /usr/share/hyphen) might know better. Worse case is they get ignored. I've not experimented with them.

KevinH · 05-28-2016, 06:54 PM

the hyphenation were incorrectly added to the hunspell dictionary but they are actually encoded versions of the words and are not dictionary format. I fixed this but did not remove them as adding hyphenation to the viewer is on my to-do list eventually.
so they are just ignored.

DiapDealer · 05-28-2016, 07:32 PM

Thanks, Kevin. I knew I remembered something about hyphenation dictionaries and "ignoring."

eschwartz · 05-28-2016, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

That said ... I'm not entirely certain that Sigil will actually implement the hyphen dictionaries. Kevin (or maybe eschwartz--who modified his sigil-git package to look to /usr/share/hyphen) might know better. Worse case is they get ignored. I've not experimented with them.

All I did was deduplicate "whatever Sigil uses" by relying on the system-installed hunspell dictionaries.

Since Sigil still ships with hyphenation dictionaries (but currently does nothing with them, except plugins can use them I guess) my PKGBUILD makes sure to tell Sigil about those too.

@roger64,

The advantage of installing your French hunspell dictionaries into the system dictionaries is that ALL applications will see them.
And handily enough, the hunspell-fr in [extra] already contains the "modern" dictionary from that LO dictionary.

roger64 · 05-29-2016, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

@roger64,

The advantage of installing your French hunspell dictionaries into the system dictionaries is that ALL applications will see them.
And handily enough, the hunspell-fr in [extra] already contains the "modern" dictionary from that LO dictionary.

Indeed.

With Firefox, the Grammalecte extension is available to check orthograph, grammar, verbs, typography, etc. Its four dictionaries (now installed for me in Sigil) are eligible for choice. The "classic" one is the recommended choice for native French speakers and the "modern" one for others. See screenshot.

Grammalecte (with dictionaries) is also available for LibreOffice.

05-27-2016, 03:30 AM	#1
roger64 Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 3120635 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle PW3 (wifi)	spell-checker French Hi I have been using for some years with LibreOfice and the Calibre Editor the following spell-checker dictionary downloaded from this site: (see on the left side of the link). http://www.dicollecte.org/grammalecte/telecharger.php The full name of the file is: lo-oo-ressources-linguistiques-fr-v5.6.oxt It's frequently updated and up to now it's the most advanced opensource spell-checker tool in French. I tried to install it just to realize that it did not seem to be working with Sigil (unless I did some mistake, which is quite possible..). As I can use it elsewhere, namely with the Calibre Editor, I just wished to signal it. I know you have a lot of other priorities and it's probably more useful to break new ground (like for Epub3) than rushing to duplicate some functionalities we can find easily elsewhere. Last edited by roger64; 05-27-2016 at 04:16 AM.

05-27-2016, 08:17 AM	#2
Doitsu Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,687 Karma: 24031401 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2	AFAIK, Sigil uses its own spelling dictionaries and searches for them in the following locations: Windows: Code: %LOCALAPPDATA%\sigil-ebook\sigil\hunspell_dictionaries %PROGRAMFILES%\Sigil\hunspell_dictionaries (These special folder names can be entered in the Windows Run dialog box.) Linux: Code: ~/.local/share/sigil-ebook/sigil/hunspell_dictionaries/ /usr/local/share/sigil/hunspell_dictionaries/ I.e., you'll have to check these folders for French spellcheck dictionaries and replace them with your preferred dictionaries. If your preferred dictionary is GPL licensed, KevinH might even include them in one of the next builds, if you ask him for it. D.

05-27-2016, 09:21 AM	#3
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,491 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Yes an oxt is simply a zip with OOo extra pieces. So rename it to .zip and pull out the actual dictionary (both .aff and .dic files) and add them to your user dictionary location so Sigil can find them. Last edited by KevinH; 05-27-2016 at 10:24 AM.

05-28-2016, 03:10 PM	#6
roger64 Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 3120635 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle PW3 (wifi)	I do not have any folder named /usr/share/hunspell. For me Sigil uses the four .aff and .dic files I put in the "hunspell dictionaries" folder of the Sigil preferences. Last edited by roger64; 05-28-2016 at 03:16 PM.

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05-27-2016, 03:58 PM	#4
roger64 Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 3120635 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle PW3 (wifi)	With some additional help from Doitsu, done and working. I can select now any of the four French dictionaries offered. Thanks to both for your help and explanations.

05-27-2016, 04:51 PM	#5
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	If you are using my sigil-git package from the Arch Linux AUR, Sigil will use the .aff and .dic dictionaries installed in /usr/share/hunspell/

05-28-2016, 05:50 PM	#9
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,371 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	That said ... I'm not entirely certain that Sigil will actually implement the hyphen dictionaries. Kevin (or maybe eschwartz--who modified his sigil-git package to look to /usr/share/hyphen) might know better. Worse case is they get ignored. I've not experimented with them.

05-28-2016, 06:54 PM	#10
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,491 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	the hyphenation were incorrectly added to the hunspell dictionary but they are actually encoded versions of the words and are not dictionary format. I fixed this but did not remove them as adding hyphenation to the viewer is on my to-do list eventually. so they are just ignored.

05-28-2016, 07:32 PM	#11
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,371 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Thanks, Kevin. I knew I remembered something about hyphenation dictionaries and "ignoring."

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