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New book stats on website
I just noticed that there is a new stats and keywords section when viewing book details from the Kobo website. It shows number of pages, reading time, number of words, and a list of keywords.
I don't know how the number of pages or reading time is calculated, but I think being able to see the number of words is a very useful feature. Here is a screenshot from the details page of this book viewed from New Zealand: |
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Good to see the numbers. Though I'm not sure about the circles as a way of showing the size. They pages one looks to be 500 pages, so anything higher shows a full circle.
There are also some keywords under the stats. But, they don't look very useful so far. Most seem to be character names in the books and other terms that probably only occur in that book or series. And thinking of stats, did anyone else get the reading activity email earlier in the month? I don't remember it being mentioned. It shows the stats for my reading for the previous three months. But, it is only for "Kobo eBooks", so only books I purchased from Kobo. I like it, but as it only captures maybe half of my reading, it isn't very accurate. |
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Gee that's interesting Geoff.
![]() But, I've opened your link and can't see where on the book details page the book stats and page info as shown in your attached pics is (and I'm signed into NZ account) ...... ![]() |
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I'm not seeing them in the Oz shop either.
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In my opinion, these stats are useless. Like David I don't like the representation, it's poorly chosen, as evidenced by the attached image.
How does the concept of pages apply to an e-book reader anyway? The number of pages in the print edition might be useful in this regard even though sometimes there are huge differences in font size and line spacing over multiple editions. Maybe there's a magic number of words assumed for a page? A page used to consist of roughly 250 words back when novels were written on typewriters. Today it's somewhere between 250 and 300 words for your regular paperback novel. I've configured my Kobo in a way that I see roughly the same amount of content as when reading a traditional mass market paperback novel. I know people who use large fonts, a ridiculous amount of line spacing, or huge margins. The same applies to the reading time. I tend to read fiction three to four times faster than nonfiction and almost everybody I know reads much slower than I do. I also doubt the algorithm is excluding all kinds of front/back matter like huge appendices (roughly 60 pages in Martin's A Dance with Dragons) from these stats, throwing them further off. Statistically not relevant? Maybe. There are not that many books showing stats, at the moment. Probably depends on the data received from the customers. To my mind, these are approximations and not stats. For what it's worth, I'm sure I read Ice Station at least twice as fast as I did Half a King. And I was on vacation when I read the latter last year with plenty of time. |
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Caine which country are you viewing that info in? It doesn't show in Kobo Aus ....
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I think they are still tweaking things: the reading time for the book I linked to in post #1 has increased from 4-5 hours to 7-8 hours, although the page and word counts remain the same.
However they are calculated, any page count will be arbitrary and any reading time estimate will be subjective, but the word count is a valid statistic and a very useful one IMO. |
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There are very few books with stats yet but most newer books. I also had to tweak my adblocker settings to seem as well. Quote:
//edit Current stats for Schild's Ladder as they are served on my end. I can also see the exact same – and mostly useless – keywords. Last edited by Caine; 01-27-2016 at 06:16 PM. Reason: added image, keywords info |
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In general I prefer word count to page count, but if they're auto generating the word count problems come in when you get a novella with enough excerpts for other books in the back to double the detected word count (or more).
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And why would the backmatter be excluded? The appendices are parts of the books and get read, so they should be included. Excluding "Bonus" material like the first chapter of the next book in the series would be a good, but that needs some sort of indication in the book if the calculation is to be automated. But again, that is still part of the book, so if the time is for reading "cover to cover", it should be included. |
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