getting back your performance.

DaleDe · 12-03-2015, 12:26 PM

I have an iPad 2 32G Wi-Fi system that I got when they were new, many years ago. After many iOS upgrades and many app upgrades I was getting to the point that I would have to launch some apps multiple times to make them take and was removing apps to maintain a minimum amount of storage space of about 1G. The upgrades of apps wouldn't always take, I had to try multiple times. I was blaming it on the upgrades and as it turns out this was partially true but it can be fixed.

My son works for Apple and he suggested I needed to reset and restore my unit. I followed his advice and it is now back to practically new. Here is what I did (a process that will take many hours so block off some time).

1. I plugged my unit into my PC and kept it plugged in.
2. I backed up my entire system using iTunes on my Windows machine.
3. I did a full cold reset of the device like I was selling it or something.
4. After its reboot it offered a choice to restore my system which I accepted.
5. After a long wait my system came back alive. For some reason, even with the backup some apps still needed to be updated (about 2 dozen). I updated them which went much smoother than it had before the upgrade.
6. I gained about 7G of free memory! and now my apps start quickly, upgrades are quick and simple, and I am enjoying my new iPad (well not really new but you get the idea).
7. You may need reenable find my phone if you had it before.

Evidently Apple garbage collection to manage memory is poor or non-existent.

I hope this will help some of you.

Dale

cvkemp · 12-03-2015, 12:54 PM

There are no devices are OSs that are that great an cleaning up the garbage. I will say it seems that Apple does a better job then Google's android

kyteflyer · 12-03-2015, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Evidently Apple garbage collection to manage memory is poor or non-existent.

I hope this will help some of you.

Dale

Its not really poor, but when you think about how long you went before doing the reset and restore... your iPad has, in fact, done remarkably well.

I usually do a full reset and restore when theres an OS update, or at least annually, to get rid of the junk. I also don't restore from a backup, because half the time, it brings back some of the junk. I always setup as a "new" device and even though its a PITA to have to go through and enter all your details again, it does make a difference to performance.

tomsem · 12-03-2015, 03:27 PM

I've never backed up my iPad with iTunes (which I loathe, even though I can't really say why, having not used it for quite some time), but following a situation where I got locked out (would not recognize my pass code) I had to do a full restore, which was a real pain, I turned on backup to iCloud, which should avoid most of the pain should this happen again. I was surprised to find there was no way to reset the pass code remotely, as I've done with Android devices.

Touch ID is a little flakey, every week or so it says 'it has been longer than 48 hours' and makes me enter the pass code even when I have used Touch ID just a few hours earlier.

HarryT · 12-03-2015, 04:00 PM

Yes, a restore from Cloud backup is much, much faster than from iTunes.

49Kat · 12-03-2015, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Yes, a restore from Cloud backup is much, much faster than from iTunes.

That would depend on the quality of your internet, wouldn't it? I had to do a restore in an iPhone 5 after we got it unlocked, and I wouldn't have even tried that with our satellite internet service. I installed iTunes on our Windows 8 computer specifically to get this done.

Oddly enough, I wasn't able to complete the update to iOS 9.1 with iTunes, though. I ended up using iCloud for that, which took a few hrs. I think a full restore if that phone with iCloud would have been unworkable, though.

cvkemp · 12-03-2015, 08:12 PM

I back up my IPhone and IPad to both the icloud and Itunes. I only use Itunes when I want to back up my devices. When I rip music I do it it with windows media center, and I have found out to do so I have to stop the apple mobile service in windows or Itune takes over the cd.

kyteflyer · 12-04-2015, 05:37 AM

I never back up to icloud, with only 5GB available, I sure as heck do not want that clogged up with multiple iOS backups. What a pain. I back up to the computer, encrypted... just in case I do want to restore from a backup at any time, or if something goes horribly wrong. Must admit, that hasnt happened since my first iphone, and back then, I had no backup. LOL.

HarryT · 12-04-2015, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyteflyer

I never back up to icloud, with only 5GB available, I sure as heck do not want that clogged up with multiple iOS backups.

You can get 50GB for $1/month, which seems excellent value to me.

My backups are relatively small, because apps don't get backed up (they simply reinstall), and I have relatively few apps that have data that I want to backup. The main one for me is GoodReader, in which I have about 5GB of academic PDFs. Cloud is great for that, because it means that I can access the docs from all my iDevices.

kyteflyer · 12-04-2015, 08:06 PM

Thanks, Harry, I have WAY too much other storage, to want to buy more. With the dollar being as utterly pathetic as it is at the moment, its $1.50/m here. Still not massive, but really, I don't need the extra.

Jack Torrance · 12-08-2015, 12:54 AM

Thanks for the info. My ipad2 has become so problematic that i rarely used it and i always thought it was a great device.

Thats been my one beef with Apple is the inability to go backwards. If I knew then what I know now i wouldn't have gone past ios7

It did give me an excuse to pick up a used Macbook Pro which was less than a refurb iPad and white not as portable more functional.

drofgnal · 12-08-2015, 05:42 AM

I have an ipad 1 which still works fine. I use it for reading, a few different games, and web surfing.

HarryT · 12-08-2015, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

Thats been my one beef with Apple is the inability to go backwards. If I knew then what I know now i wouldn't have gone past ios7

That's precisely the reason I always wait a few months before doing a major o/s upgrade, so I can find out from other people how it's performing on the older hardware.

Jack Torrance · 12-08-2015, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

That's precisely the reason I always wait a few months before doing a major o/s upgrade, so I can find out from other people how it's performing on the older hardware.

The funny thing is until not that long ago Apple still sold the ipad2 with the latest iOS. Even if it was 8.? So supposedly it ran well enough to sell and they thought it should run well enough on 9 also. I found it better on 9 vs 8 but nowhere near as good as 5,6 and 7.

I'm going to try the complete wipe and reinstall and see what happens.

David Munch · 12-08-2015, 02:50 PM

iOS9.2 is a huge speed update for my iPad 2, so you may want to update to it. 9.1 was a crawl and made me seriously consider an upgrade to an iPad Air 2.

No more need for that fortunately!

I would say it is as fast as 7.1.2, which I updated from a week ago, so I can still recall it quite well.

12-03-2015, 12:26 PM	#1
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	getting back your performance. I have an iPad 2 32G Wi-Fi system that I got when they were new, many years ago. After many iOS upgrades and many app upgrades I was getting to the point that I would have to launch some apps multiple times to make them take and was removing apps to maintain a minimum amount of storage space of about 1G. The upgrades of apps wouldn't always take, I had to try multiple times. I was blaming it on the upgrades and as it turns out this was partially true but it can be fixed. My son works for Apple and he suggested I needed to reset and restore my unit. I followed his advice and it is now back to practically new. Here is what I did (a process that will take many hours so block off some time). 1. I plugged my unit into my PC and kept it plugged in. 2. I backed up my entire system using iTunes on my Windows machine. 3. I did a full cold reset of the device like I was selling it or something. 4. After its reboot it offered a choice to restore my system which I accepted. 5. After a long wait my system came back alive. For some reason, even with the backup some apps still needed to be updated (about 2 dozen). I updated them which went much smoother than it had before the upgrade. 6. I gained about 7G of free memory! and now my apps start quickly, upgrades are quick and simple, and I am enjoying my new iPad (well not really new but you get the idea). 7. You may need reenable find my phone if you had it before. Evidently Apple garbage collection to manage memory is poor or non-existent. I hope this will help some of you. Dale

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12-03-2015, 12:54 PM	#2
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	There are no devices are OSs that are that great an cleaning up the garbage. I will say it seems that Apple does a better job then Google's android

12-03-2015, 03:27 PM	#4
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,939 Karma: 27060151 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	I've never backed up my iPad with iTunes (which I loathe, even though I can't really say why, having not used it for quite some time), but following a situation where I got locked out (would not recognize my pass code) I had to do a full restore, which was a real pain, I turned on backup to iCloud, which should avoid most of the pain should this happen again. I was surprised to find there was no way to reset the pass code remotely, as I've done with Android devices. Touch ID is a little flakey, every week or so it says 'it has been longer than 48 hours' and makes me enter the pass code even when I have used Touch ID just a few hours earlier.

12-03-2015, 04:00 PM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, a restore from Cloud backup is much, much faster than from iTunes.

12-03-2015, 08:12 PM	#7
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I back up my IPhone and IPad to both the icloud and Itunes. I only use Itunes when I want to back up my devices. When I rip music I do it it with windows media center, and I have found out to do so I have to stop the apple mobile service in windows or Itune takes over the cd.

12-04-2015, 05:37 AM	#8
kyteflyer Wizard Posts: 1,844 Karma: 9547754 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newcastle, Australia Device: iPhone 12 Mini	I never back up to icloud, with only 5GB available, I sure as heck do not want that clogged up with multiple iOS backups. What a pain. I back up to the computer, encrypted... just in case I do want to restore from a backup at any time, or if something goes horribly wrong. Must admit, that hasnt happened since my first iphone, and back then, I had no backup. LOL.

12-04-2015, 08:06 PM	#10
kyteflyer Wizard Posts: 1,844 Karma: 9547754 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newcastle, Australia Device: iPhone 12 Mini	Thanks, Harry, I have WAY too much other storage, to want to buy more. With the dollar being as utterly pathetic as it is at the moment, its $1.50/m here. Still not massive, but really, I don't need the extra.

12-08-2015, 12:54 AM	#11
Jack Torrance “Here’s Johnny Posts: 186 Karma: 3863056 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Overlook Hotel Colorado Device: Kindle DXG - 9.7 iPad - iPhone 12PM - Macbook Pro	Thanks for the info. My ipad2 has become so problematic that i rarely used it and i always thought it was a great device. Thats been my one beef with Apple is the inability to go backwards. If I knew then what I know now i wouldn't have gone past ios7 It did give me an excuse to pick up a used Macbook Pro which was less than a refurb iPad and white not as portable more functional.

12-08-2015, 05:42 AM	#12
drofgnal Wizard Posts: 1,400 Karma: 10519918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Ipad Pro/Kindle Oasis 3/iPhone 13 Pro Max	I have an ipad 1 which still works fine. I use it for reading, a few different games, and web surfing.

12-08-2015, 02:50 PM	#15
David Munch Scholar Posts: 1,009 Karma: 3999312 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kobo Libra H2O + iPad Air 4	iOS9.2 is a huge speed update for my iPad 2, so you may want to update to it. 9.1 was a crawl and made me seriously consider an upgrade to an iPad Air 2. No more need for that fortunately! I would say it is as fast as 7.1.2, which I updated from a week ago, so I can still recall it quite well.

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