Best title system for manga?

RadicalxEdward · 05-17-2015, 03:35 AM

Hello again everyone,

I'm a little OCD about organizing my calibre library. A lot of it is manga that I have converted for my kindle paperwhite 2 with Kindle Comic Converter. Some manga has a title for the volume, some don't and the kindle doesn't show as much information as calibre does, so I want the titles to be informative but not so long that they're overly truncated and unreadable on the kindle in list view (since they can be hard to distinguish by cover art alone)

So here's my problem, I want to have a consistent title scheme for any manga. i.e.
Attack on Titan, Vol. 01: Prototype (this seems like an okay balance between size and info, idk)
Attack on Titan, Vol. 1: Prototype
Attack on Titan, Volume 01: Prototype
Attack on Titan, Volume 1: Prototype
Volume 01: Prototype
Volume 1: Prototype
Attack on Titan: Prototype
Attack on Titan - Volume 01
Attack on Titan - Volume 1
Attack on Titan - V1
Attack on Titan - V01
etc etc

KCC, when using it's metadata feature (which makes it so it doesn't put KCC as the author which i hate) will style it like: Attack on Titan V1 #1 which may work for american comics that are sorted by volume/issue #'s, but not so good for manga. And it doesn't have an option for a volume's title if it has one.

I know this is kind of anal, but do any of you guys have a consistent scheme you use for titling manga? I'm only worried about the title cause that's what shows up on the kindle and what things will be sorted by.

Thanks

EDIT: While searching I also just came across some plugboard thing? So that calibre would convert a books title when transferring to kindle so that kindle shows all the info i want in title, without actually having to manually enter it in the title in calibre. Would that be better?

theducks · 05-17-2015, 11:45 AM

I don't do Manga or FF, but there are common aspects to real books

you have 3 things there that are' as Shipped', not how they should be indexed by Calibre.
I split them into their proper places.
Later, Templates will mumble them into the form needed by a particular reading device

Attack on Titan {series}
Volume 1 {series_index} (dropping the unneeded word 'Volume')
Prototype {title}

The only time I leave "Version, Volume, Issue" (or abbreviations) in the{ Title} is when there is no Unique title otherwise. I always remove Series if there IS a Title. I also drop subtitles (variations can make them unreliable for detecting duplicates)

my 2 cents

Orbit 5 {title} (you can't remove the volume # and be unique)
Orbit {series}
5 {series_index}

ABSOLUTLY use the plugboard

fidvo · 05-18-2015, 01:10 PM

Here's how I do it, although I'll admit my system is tailored to my workflow and may not be particularly good for yours.

First, I use one book per chapter rather than one book per volume in order to keep the file sizes down as well as track chapter titles. I previously used CBC files for each volume so I could have a table of contents, but CBC isn't widely supported and it took forever to open some of those big files in the Calibre viewer, so I changed how I'm doing it.

Title: Some Random Manga, Chapter 001
Series: Some Random Manga [1]
Path (Custom field): Manga.Some Random Manga.v001
Chapter Title (Custom field): Name of the chapter

Note that the Path field is hierarchical, so I can use the tag browser to navigate between the volumes.

Also note that I have the View Manager plugin set up with a "Path" view that's sorted on Path, Series, Title.

My method works fine if you're always going to use Calibre to read your manga (even if you use an external viewer), or use Save to Disk to export them into a hierarchical file system. I include the custom Path field in every one of my libraries for just that purpose.

It's not so good if you're going to Send to Device, most notably because the volume doesn't get its own field, making it more difficult to extract with a plugboard.

It also doesn't allow for a Volume title, although you could append one to the end of the Path field if you wanted.

For a volume-based system rather than a chapter-based system, the one proposed by theducks is probably much better.

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05-17-2015, 03:35 AM	#1
RadicalxEdward Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Amazon Kindle	Best title system for manga? Hello again everyone, I'm a little OCD about organizing my calibre library. A lot of it is manga that I have converted for my kindle paperwhite 2 with Kindle Comic Converter. Some manga has a title for the volume, some don't and the kindle doesn't show as much information as calibre does, so I want the titles to be informative but not so long that they're overly truncated and unreadable on the kindle in list view (since they can be hard to distinguish by cover art alone) So here's my problem, I want to have a consistent title scheme for any manga. i.e. Attack on Titan, Vol. 01: Prototype (this seems like an okay balance between size and info, idk) Attack on Titan, Vol. 1: Prototype Attack on Titan, Volume 01: Prototype Attack on Titan, Volume 1: Prototype Volume 01: Prototype Volume 1: Prototype Attack on Titan: Prototype Attack on Titan - Volume 01 Attack on Titan - Volume 1 Attack on Titan - V1 Attack on Titan - V01 etc etc KCC, when using it's metadata feature (which makes it so it doesn't put KCC as the author which i hate) will style it like: Attack on Titan V1 #1 which may work for american comics that are sorted by volume/issue #'s, but not so good for manga. And it doesn't have an option for a volume's title if it has one. I know this is kind of anal, but do any of you guys have a consistent scheme you use for titling manga? I'm only worried about the title cause that's what shows up on the kindle and what things will be sorted by. Thanks EDIT: While searching I also just came across some plugboard thing? So that calibre would convert a books title when transferring to kindle so that kindle shows all the info i want in title, without actually having to manually enter it in the title in calibre. Would that be better? Last edited by RadicalxEdward; 05-17-2015 at 03:41 AM.

05-17-2015, 11:45 AM	#2
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,047 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	I don't do Manga or FF, but there are common aspects to real books you have 3 things there that are' as Shipped', not how they should be indexed by Calibre. I split them into their proper places. Later, Templates will mumble them into the form needed by a particular reading device Attack on Titan {series} Volume 1 {series_index} (dropping the unneeded word 'Volume') Prototype {title} The only time I leave "Version, Volume, Issue" (or abbreviations) in the{ Title} is when there is no Unique title otherwise. I always remove Series if there IS a Title. I also drop subtitles (variations can make them unreliable for detecting duplicates) my 2 cents Orbit 5 {title} (you can't remove the volume # and be unique) Orbit {series} 5 {series_index} ABSOLUTLY use the plugboard

05-18-2015, 01:10 PM	#3
fidvo Addict Posts: 309 Karma: 1645952 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: none	Here's how I do it, although I'll admit my system is tailored to my workflow and may not be particularly good for yours. First, I use one book per chapter rather than one book per volume in order to keep the file sizes down as well as track chapter titles. I previously used CBC files for each volume so I could have a table of contents, but CBC isn't widely supported and it took forever to open some of those big files in the Calibre viewer, so I changed how I'm doing it. Title: Some Random Manga, Chapter 001 Series: Some Random Manga [1] Path (Custom field): Manga.Some Random Manga.v001 Chapter Title (Custom field): Name of the chapter Note that the Path field is hierarchical, so I can use the tag browser to navigate between the volumes. Also note that I have the View Manager plugin set up with a "Path" view that's sorted on Path, Series, Title. My method works fine if you're always going to use Calibre to read your manga (even if you use an external viewer), or use Save to Disk to export them into a hierarchical file system. I include the custom Path field in every one of my libraries for just that purpose. It's not so good if you're going to Send to Device, most notably because the volume doesn't get its own field, making it more difficult to extract with a plugboard. It also doesn't allow for a Volume title, although you could append one to the end of the Path field if you wanted. For a volume-based system rather than a chapter-based system, the one proposed by theducks is probably much better.

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