Validation errors

[azupak]

Hi,
I'm new to Sigil. I've started creating new epub from scratch and when i try to validate file (just for check if i did everything allright till now) i had erros - for example:

for this line

<a id="note10" href="#note10b"><sub>[10]</sub></a><sub><font size="2">&nbsp;</font><font size="2">Stanisław Kucharski, b. April 26th 1918 in Żywiec. More→ BIOGRAPHIES</font></sub>

i have this errors:

- no declaration found for element 'font'
- element 'font' is not allowed for content model

What's it all about?

Greetings
Chris

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by azupak

for this line

<a id="note10" href="#note10b"><sub>[10]</sub></a><sub><font size="2">&nbsp;</font><font size="2">Stanisław Kucharski, b. April 26th 1918 in Żywiec. More→ BIOGRAPHIES</font></sub>

i have this errors:

- no declaration found for element 'font'
- element 'font' is not allowed for content model

What's it all about?

"element 'font' is not allowed for content model"

The font tag is not valid in xhtml

With any validation error that includes the phrase "element '<blah>' is not allowed" in the description, it's fairly safe to assume that the tag/element <blah> is not valid. Doesn't mean it can't work. It just means that the specs don't want you to use it.

I'm guessing you're using some old mobi-markup-based source code for your book? Mobiml is based on html 3.2 and will contain lots of markup that's not valid in xhtml.

[azupak]

Ok, so can i change it for something else? Why this application adds tags which cause errors?

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by azupak

Ok, so can i change it for something else? Why this application adds tags which cause errors?

Sigil didn't add the font tags. They had to have been in your original source. The only tag Sigil will add that won't validate (that I'm aware of) is the '<u>' tag when adding underlines in wysiwyg mode. Sigil doesn't add '<font>' tags for any reason.

If you want to make an element's text larger or smaller, you should assign css to that element's class to do so. If it's already within a block element you may have to add span tags to accomplish it.

<a id="note10" href="#note10b"><sub>[10]</sub></a><sub><span class="smaller">&nbsp;Stanisław Kucharski, b. April 26th 1918 in Żywiec. More→ BIOGRAPHIES</span></sub>

span.smaller { font-size: .75em; }

[azupak]

Thanks! I'll try this

[exaltedwombat]

What exactly does "creating new epub from scratch" mean? What's your process?

[azupak]

It means that i've started creating ebook in Sigil by using copy/paste method (copy from Word and paste to Sigil as 'clean' text, chapter by chapter) but after 2 chapters I realized that it's not as good idea as i thought, so after that I cleaned whole Word document by using regular expressions and then pasted it into Sigil.

[Toxaris]

Cleaning HTML via RegEx is not a good idea. A lot can go wrong. You could use my Word add-in, that will create clean code and an ePUB directly from Word if you want.

[Notjohn]

Originally Posted by Toxaris

You could use my Word add-in, that will create clean code and an ePUB directly from Word if you want.

Oh gosh, I suppose I must buy a new version of Word! The plug-in doesn't work with Word 2000, as I recall, so I have leaned on Word2CleanHtml online. (I finish up my books in Word for the sake of the curly quotes and the em dashes etc.)

But Word to epub? Really? How obsessive does a Wordster have to be, with Styles and such, to get a good result exporting via the plug-in?

[exaltedwombat]

Just as obsessive as he will have to be in an ePub editor, if he's been sloppy in Word!

[Toxaris]

Originally Posted by Notjohn

Oh gosh, I suppose I must buy a new version of Word! The plug-in doesn't work with Word 2000, as I recall, so I have leaned on Word2CleanHtml online. (I finish up my books in Word for the sake of the curly quotes and the em dashes etc.)

But Word to epub? Really? How obsessive does a Wordster have to be, with Styles and such, to get a good result exporting via the plug-in?

So sorry not to support a version over 15 years old... It supports Office 2007 and even that is 9 years old... It uses features not available in Word in the older versions, so I cannot even port it even if I want to.

Yes, Word to ePUB. You don't even have to be obsessive to find it useful. It will create a good ePUB with clean HTML (even if you don't use styles), will split on headers, handles tables, lists, footnotes and basic formatting (more formatting if you use styles). You can create the ePUB and after creation automatically start up Sigil of Calibre editor to further process. It saves a lot of time cleaning up and produces much better results than the Word2CleanHtml online. And yes, I have checked that.

It has many, many more options and exporting to ePUB is just one of them and not even the most important one. Even if you don't find the addin and this option useful, others do.
To each its own.

[Notjohn]

I can't use more recent iterations of Word than 2003 because they lack the ability to open WordStar files. WordStar is the best of all possible word processors, and I'll not give it up until I am no longer able to beat Windows into submission to run a DOS program, not even for your plug-in! It would be like touch-typing with just one hand!

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Notjohn

I can't use more recent iterations of Word than 2003 because they lack the ability to open WordStar files. WordStar is the best of all possible word processors, and I'll not give it up until I am no longer able to beat Windows into submission to run a DOS program, not even for your plug-in! It would be like touch-typing with just one hand!

Please. This whole "WordStar is the best" hoo-hah is nothing but nostalgia, comfort-level, and familiarity. If it's so perfect, why do you need to be able to open its finished product in Word at all?

If it was truly "the best of all possible word processors," they'd still be selling versions of it for the latest Windows. It's more like; "I already put my time in learning the ins and outs of WordStar and have no desire to spend the time necessary to do the same with a newer Wordprocessing program, so I cling desperately to the past while convincing myself that I do so for purely objective "betterness" reasons rather than it simply being a case of subjective personal preference and a lack of desire to retool."

Nothing at all wrong with wanting to stick with what you know. It's just not reasonable to expect the rest of the world to accommodate your dated preferences ad infinitum.

[Toxaris]

Originally Posted by Notjohn

I can't use more recent iterations of Word than 2003 because they lack the ability to open WordStar files. WordStar is the best of all possible word processors, and I'll not give it up until I am no longer able to beat Windows into submission to run a DOS program, not even for your plug-in! It would be like touch-typing with just one hand!

So, because you think Wordstar is the best, nobody should use a newer version of Word... Why did you respond to my message anyway? It had nothing to do with the original post and is apparently just for bashing others and showing your presumed superiority in working with ancient word processors. Fine, if you get a kick out of that. I will not respond to this anymore. I just gave the OP an alternative that will work for normal people that move along instead of grasping to the ancient ways.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Toxaris

So sorry not to support a version over 15 years old... It supports Office 2007 and even that is 9 years old... It uses features not available in Word in the older versions, so I cannot even port it even if I want to.

Yes, Word to ePUB. You don't even have to be obsessive to find it useful. It will create a good ePUB with clean HTML (even if you don't use styles), will split on headers, handles tables, lists, footnotes and basic formatting (more formatting if you use styles). You can create the ePUB and after creation automatically start up Sigil of Calibre editor to further process. It saves a lot of time cleaning up and produces much better results than the Word2CleanHtml online. And yes, I have checked that.

It has many, many more options and exporting to ePUB is just one of them and not even the most important one. Even if you don't find the addin and this option useful, others do.
To each its own.

I still have my WS 5.5 (on 5.25" floppies.)
There is the small issue that none of my systems have/can use that size drive (I could never get XP to USE the drive, so I took it out and used the space for a 100M Zip Drive ((I still have blank Zip discs )) )