Thanks to all in first post

Jelis · 06-28-2008, 10:26 PM

Sincere thanks to all of you on this forum for allowing me to learn an awful lot in a very short, but a bit confusing!, first couple of days.

I went from reading/thinking about one reader to the other and all of your contributions made it become more clear to me what I needed and wanted.

Special thanks to all in the Sony Reader Threads, HarryT and to Kovid Goyal in particular.

I was waiting for the opportunity of adapting my passion for reading to the 'modern' times, the space my books were taking up were getting to be a problem, the taking care of so many books during many moves from country to country were also difficult. The real problem with many books (records, cd's, tapes, dvd's etc.) is the enjoyment of USING and ENJOYING them again and again. The hassle seemed just too much at times. Adding new books even seemed less enjoyable in the long run.

I am profoundly upset in a way about the many different formats out there, which seem to be a purely commercial enterprise to lock the consumer in a system that does not allow any leeway for the future and which also forces one to pay over and over again for already bought material. But I will get over it and adapt once again, after all I got, in a different medium, through the VHS-BetaMax War of the 80's....

I think buying a E-reader is a turning point in my reading life and I am looking forward to it.

I am a habitual non-registered 'lurker'on forums, but this time I could not NOT acknowledge the immense help you all provided me.

Many, many thanks again,

Jelis

Ervserver · 06-29-2008, 02:03 AM

Hello Jelis

zelda_pinwheel · 06-29-2008, 04:17 AM

Salut Jelis,
you're right, it can be confusing at first ! but i'm sure you'll be able to figure things out and find the best reader for you.

i know what you mean about books taking up too much space... one of the best things for me since getting my liseuse is being able to give away so many of my paper books, when i replace them with digital editions. i still have too many... and some of them i will always keep... but i've gained a lot of space already and i'm still replacing the old classics which are available for free.

you're right about the format wars ; as consumers, we are always the losing ones in such situations. but hopefully we will be able to standardise the format soon. you may have read about the epub format ; it's a format being specifically created by a standards committee with this in mind. it's not yet fully implemented but things are moving forward. you'll find plenty of information about that here if you're interested.

i hope that the incompatible formats will soon be over. in the meantime, you can try to get around this by keeping to open format editions with no DRM whenever possible. and don't hesitate to write to publishers and let them know how you feel. the publishing industry is just entering this "modern age" as well and we can help them find the best ways (whether they want us to, or not ! ^^).

don't miss the "e-books" section of the site (click on the link at the top left of the page) ; we have a collection of over 5000 (and growing every day) free public domain books which have been formatted by our members. they are beautiful quality editions on every subject. we have a small collection in french as well (i see you live in france), which hopefully will also be growing !

welcome to the forum !

MickeyC · 06-29-2008, 07:32 AM

Hi Jelis and welcome to the Forum. I got a 505 back in January and like it it a lot.

I had the same problem with pBooks you do. My wife finally put her foot down and made me donate them to the nearest library. Now I have 65 books on my reader and there is peace in the house.

Spartacus2112 · 06-29-2008, 08:44 AM

Greetings, Jelis. Enjoy the forum!

Jelis · 07-03-2008, 10:59 PM

Thank you, Ervserver, Zelda (oh that name...), CassidyM and Spartacus, for welcoming me to the forum.

It took me some time to get used to being here and reading a lot of the very useful material here. I am more of the lurking type I guess, but did wander into the Lounge area and read that you are all karma-sensitive in one way or another, so here goes...

I tried the first couple of days to give karma to people whose posts I had appreciated, but probably not always on the posts in question. Probably silly effect, but what did I know? And more importantly, what do I know now?

And then I got this message: "you must spread some karma around before you give it to X again."! That taught me and then the other message about having spread too much karma overall... I felt silly.

So belated thanks and karma to the 4 of you.

Jelis

zelda_pinwheel · 07-04-2008, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jelis

Zelda (oh that name...),

"oh that name" ? what does that mean ??

Quote:

It took me some time to get used to being here and reading a lot of the very useful material here. I am more of the lurking type I guess, but did wander into the Lounge area and read that you are all karma-sensitive in one way or another, so here goes...

us ? karma-sensitive ? don't beleive it...

seriously though i think they put something in the water on this forum, as i am a confirmed lurker as well everywhere else.

Quote:

I tried the first couple of days to give karma to people whose posts I had appreciated, but probably not always on the posts in question. Probably silly effect, but what did I know? And more importantly, what do I know now?

And then I got this message: "you must spread some karma around before you give it to X again."! That taught me and then the other message about having spread too much karma overall... I felt silly.

well, silliness is an affirmed goal around here in general (but you've been to the lounge, so i guess you've noticed that by now) but you shouldn't feel silly about that. there are a couple of rules to giving karma : you can't give it twice to the same person without giving it to 2 other people in between, and you can't give it for the same post more than once, and there is also a limit on how many times you can shake the karma stick in one day (i think it's 10 but i could be wrong). but there's no shame in running into one of the limits, it just means you've encountered a lot worth rewarding, which is a good thing right ?

Quote:

So belated thanks and karma to the 4 of you.

Jelis

you're welcome, and thanks.

Jelis · 07-04-2008, 08:04 AM

Thanks for all that info.
As for Zelda that name always reminds me of Zelda Fitzgerald, but for my children it (starting to tread very very carefully here

.......... (still treading carefully) only (I did it! Can safely stop all this treading) refers to a game.

Jelis

montsnmags · 07-04-2008, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelis

Thanks for all that info.
As for Zelda that name always reminds me of Zelda Fitzgerald...

Oh, perfect response, Jelis. It looks like Zelda just made another BFF.

Cheers,
Marc

zelda_pinwheel · 07-04-2008, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelis

Thanks for all that info.
As for Zelda that name always reminds me of Zelda Fitzgerald, but for my children it refers to a game.

Jelis

Quote:

Originally Posted by montsnmags

Oh, perfect response, Jelis. It looks like Zelda just made another BFF.

Cheers,
Marc

yeah, baby...

Jelis · 07-04-2008, 08:46 AM

Montsnmags - nothing comes to mind immediately seeing your name, but give me time - thanks for that link, I had a good laugh.

Actually I carefully edited out the "only" in "it refers to a game". The second part of the pseudo made me cautious.

I have been reading a lot on the forums but had not come across the link you provided.

Zelda-pinwheel, trying to get them start guessing again what it all could mean, many thanks

Zelda-pinwheel. If I say it often enough they will forget about all of this.

Jelis

zelda_pinwheel · 07-04-2008, 08:48 AM

please do carefully edit back in the "only" in "it refers to a game."

pilotbob · 07-04-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelis

And then I got this message: "you must spread some karma around before you give it to X again."! That taught me and then the other message about having spread too much karma overall... I felt silly.

Spread all the karma you want. The forum just wants to make sure you don't give it all to one person, that's all.

BOb

Jelis · 07-04-2008, 02:07 PM

Thank you Bob, I understand perfectly and although I did feel a bit silly, it did not last that long either.

Zelda_Pinwheel, the editing job has been done as per your command. I also discovered some very nice new toys, so if you have time... but I guess you don't, you are way way above ... just kidding. Great discovery, fun, even more to read now.

Jelis

06-28-2008, 10:26 PM	#1
Jelis Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 742 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: France Device: sony 505	Thanks to all in first post Sincere thanks to all of you on this forum for allowing me to learn an awful lot in a very short, but a bit confusing!, first couple of days. I went from reading/thinking about one reader to the other and all of your contributions made it become more clear to me what I needed and wanted. Special thanks to all in the Sony Reader Threads, HarryT and to Kovid Goyal in particular. I was waiting for the opportunity of adapting my passion for reading to the 'modern' times, the space my books were taking up were getting to be a problem, the taking care of so many books during many moves from country to country were also difficult. The real problem with many books (records, cd's, tapes, dvd's etc.) is the enjoyment of USING and ENJOYING them again and again. The hassle seemed just too much at times. Adding new books even seemed less enjoyable in the long run. I am profoundly upset in a way about the many different formats out there, which seem to be a purely commercial enterprise to lock the consumer in a system that does not allow any leeway for the future and which also forces one to pay over and over again for already bought material. But I will get over it and adapt once again, after all I got, in a different medium, through the VHS-BetaMax War of the 80's.... I think buying a E-reader is a turning point in my reading life and I am looking forward to it. I am a habitual non-registered 'lurker'on forums, but this time I could not NOT acknowledge the immense help you all provided me. Many, many thanks again, Jelis

06-29-2008, 04:17 AM	#3
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	Salut Jelis, you're right, it can be confusing at first ! but i'm sure you'll be able to figure things out and find the best reader for you. i know what you mean about books taking up too much space... one of the best things for me since getting my liseuse is being able to give away so many of my paper books, when i replace them with digital editions. i still have too many... and some of them i will always keep... but i've gained a lot of space already and i'm still replacing the old classics which are available for free. you're right about the format wars ; as consumers, we are always the losing ones in such situations. but hopefully we will be able to standardise the format soon. you may have read about the epub format ; it's a format being specifically created by a standards committee with this in mind. it's not yet fully implemented but things are moving forward. you'll find plenty of information about that here if you're interested. i hope that the incompatible formats will soon be over. in the meantime, you can try to get around this by keeping to open format editions with no DRM whenever possible. and don't hesitate to write to publishers and let them know how you feel. the publishing industry is just entering this "modern age" as well and we can help them find the best ways (whether they want us to, or not ! ^^). don't miss the "e-books" section of the site (click on the link at the top left of the page) ; we have a collection of over 5000 (and growing every day) free public domain books which have been formatted by our members. they are beautiful quality editions on every subject. we have a small collection in french as well (i see you live in france), which hopefully will also be growing ! welcome to the forum ! Last edited by zelda_pinwheel; 06-29-2008 at 08:43 AM.

07-04-2008, 08:04 AM	#8
Jelis Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 742 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: France Device: sony 505	Thanks for all that info. As for Zelda that name always reminds me of Zelda Fitzgerald, but for my children it (starting to tread very very carefully here .......... (still treading carefully) only (I did it! Can safely stop all this treading) refers to a game. Jelis Last edited by Jelis; 07-04-2008 at 02:09 PM. Reason: Treading measures applied

07-04-2008, 08:46 AM	#11
Jelis Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 742 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: France Device: sony 505	honestly Montsnmags - nothing comes to mind immediately seeing your name, but give me time - thanks for that link, I had a good laugh. Actually I carefully edited out the "only" in "it refers to a game". The second part of the pseudo made me cautious. I have been reading a lot on the forums but had not come across the link you provided. Zelda-pinwheel, trying to get them start guessing again what it all could mean, many thanks Zelda-pinwheel. If I say it often enough they will forget about all of this. Jelis Last edited by Jelis; 07-04-2008 at 01:58 PM.

07-04-2008, 02:07 PM	#14
Jelis Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 742 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: France Device: sony 505	Thank you Bob, I understand perfectly and although I did feel a bit silly, it did not last that long either. Zelda_Pinwheel, the editing job has been done as per your command. I also discovered some very nice new toys, so if you have time... but I guess you don't, you are way way above ... just kidding. Great discovery, fun, even more to read now. Jelis Last edited by Jelis; 07-04-2008 at 02:14 PM.

06-29-2008, 02:03 AM	#2
Ervserver Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 1008294 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch	Hello Jelis

06-29-2008, 07:32 AM	#4
MickeyC Grand Sorcerer Posts: 16,731 Karma: 12185114 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Device: iPhone 6 plus, Sony T1, iPad 3	Hi Jelis and welcome to the Forum. I got a 505 back in January and like it it a lot. I had the same problem with pBooks you do. My wife finally put her foot down and made me donate them to the nearest library. Now I have 65 books on my reader and there is peace in the house.

06-29-2008, 08:44 AM	#5
Spartacus2112 Evangelist Posts: 468 Karma: 1147 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lawn Giland Device: Kindle 3 Wifi	Greetings, Jelis. Enjoy the forum!

07-03-2008, 10:59 PM	#6
Jelis Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 742 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: France Device: sony 505	Thank you, Ervserver, Zelda (oh that name...), CassidyM and Spartacus, for welcoming me to the forum. It took me some time to get used to being here and reading a lot of the very useful material here. I am more of the lurking type I guess, but did wander into the Lounge area and read that you are all karma-sensitive in one way or another, so here goes... I tried the first couple of days to give karma to people whose posts I had appreciated, but probably not always on the posts in question. Probably silly effect, but what did I know? And more importantly, what do I know now? And then I got this message: "you must spread some karma around before you give it to X again."! That taught me and then the other message about having spread too much karma overall... I felt silly. So belated thanks and karma to the 4 of you. Jelis

07-04-2008, 08:48 AM	#12
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	please do carefully edit back in the "only" in "it refers to a game."

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