Converting DOCX to MOBI, I lose the title page????

unususalsuspex · 12-02-2014, 01:36 PM

OK, I think it's fairly obvious that I am doing something wrong here.

Essentially I create my e-book in Word and include an image as the title page. However when I convert to MOBI my title page disappears (although other images a little further in remain.)

If I try it with RTF, the title page remains (yay!) but the smaller images further in seem to grow.

I'll accept the idiot tag if somebody could help me out please

BetterRed · 12-02-2014, 05:18 PM

@unususalsuspex - I would just insert the cover image at very front of docx, followed by a page break

Sample attached

BR

unususalsuspex · 12-02-2014, 06:02 PM

Thanks BR, I've tried that but no luck. I have had a go at using the filtered web page save and convert which gives me the title page (as opposed to the cover as I add that in Calibre) but then some of the smaller images just a page along seem to slip out of place.

I'm getting closer but it's one of those niggly little things that seems destined to wind you up!

kovidgoyal · 12-02-2014, 09:45 PM

In the MOBI format, titles are treated specially. They are not part of the normal contents of the book and can only be accessed via the special Got to cover menu item on a Kindle.

Fluidfox · 12-11-2014, 09:24 PM

Also, (and this may be unique to the files I have been using) you might have more overall success externally saving the DocX as Html (save as web page), then converting the Html to Epub, Then tweak the resulting epub using Edit Book, including designating the cover at that step. (also great for fixing the TOC if present/needed) Then converting that improved epub to Mobi.

I don't like the extra conversion steps, but I can't argue with the results I obtained. Sounds like a lot, but it's like 15-20 minutes in practice. Plus, I needed the Epub anyway. The only side effect of all of this is that Calibre didn't pick up the actual cover from the HTML and created its own which I had to then remove.

The result was a correctly formatted document with a still functioning table of contents. (including the TOC at the end of the book that Mobi requires for correct navigation)

eschwartz · 12-11-2014, 09:32 PM

You could also just use Edit book, and instead of opening an EPUB, open the DOCX. calibre will use its usual DOCX input plugin (phenomenal piece of work BTW) but output an EPUB directly to the editor, an advantage is that the CSS is not flattened into the usual "calibre*" classes.

Much better results than saving as filtered HTML.

Depending who you ask, Toxaris's e-Book Tools - a Word add-in might give you a superior EPUB export, but either one should suffice, and are better than saving as HTML from Word.

Fluidfox · 12-12-2014, 01:45 AM

That's great! I honestly didn't know the edit book option would give a result directly from docx. I thought it was strictly limited to epub (and maybe azw3?) so I never tried. Never occurred to me that it might just create the epub if needed. If it produces better results than running it though html first, I'm all over that. The fewer conversions, the better. Trying that tomorrow. Thanks.

eschwartz · 12-12-2014, 01:58 AM

It can only do that for DOCX or HTML, of course... But that is what you need.

Chiefly because it only uses the input plugin and doesn't munge your CSS.

unususalsuspex · 12-14-2014, 05:13 PM

Thanks to everybody for their help. I never would have thought of the EDIT BOOK option!!

Will let you know guys

12-02-2014, 01:36 PM	#1
unususalsuspex Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2014 Device: Kindle	Converting DOCX to MOBI, I lose the title page???? OK, I think it's fairly obvious that I am doing something wrong here. Essentially I create my e-book in Word and include an image as the title page. However when I convert to MOBI my title page disappears (although other images a little further in remain.) If I try it with RTF, the title page remains (yay!) but the smaller images further in seem to grow. I'll accept the idiot tag if somebody could help me out please

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12-02-2014, 06:02 PM	#3
unususalsuspex Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2014 Device: Kindle	Thanks BR, I've tried that but no luck. I have had a go at using the filtered web page save and convert which gives me the title page (as opposed to the cover as I add that in Calibre) but then some of the smaller images just a page along seem to slip out of place. I'm getting closer but it's one of those niggly little things that seems destined to wind you up!

12-02-2014, 09:45 PM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,296 Karma: 27111240 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	In the MOBI format, titles are treated specially. They are not part of the normal contents of the book and can only be accessed via the special Got to cover menu item on a Kindle.

12-11-2014, 09:24 PM	#5
Fluidfox Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2011 Device: iPad	Also, (and this may be unique to the files I have been using) you might have more overall success externally saving the DocX as Html (save as web page), then converting the Html to Epub, Then tweak the resulting epub using Edit Book, including designating the cover at that step. (also great for fixing the TOC if present/needed) Then converting that improved epub to Mobi. I don't like the extra conversion steps, but I can't argue with the results I obtained. Sounds like a lot, but it's like 15-20 minutes in practice. Plus, I needed the Epub anyway. The only side effect of all of this is that Calibre didn't pick up the actual cover from the HTML and created its own which I had to then remove. The result was a correctly formatted document with a still functioning table of contents. (including the TOC at the end of the book that Mobi requires for correct navigation)

12-11-2014, 09:32 PM	#6
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	You could also just use Edit book, and instead of opening an EPUB, open the DOCX. calibre will use its usual DOCX input plugin (phenomenal piece of work BTW) but output an EPUB directly to the editor, an advantage is that the CSS is not flattened into the usual "calibre*" classes. Much better results than saving as filtered HTML. Depending who you ask, Toxaris's e-Book Tools - a Word add-in might give you a superior EPUB export, but either one should suffice, and are better than saving as HTML from Word.

12-12-2014, 01:45 AM	#7
Fluidfox Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2011 Device: iPad	That's great! I honestly didn't know the edit book option would give a result directly from docx. I thought it was strictly limited to epub (and maybe azw3?) so I never tried. Never occurred to me that it might just create the epub if needed. If it produces better results than running it though html first, I'm all over that. The fewer conversions, the better. Trying that tomorrow. Thanks.

12-12-2014, 01:58 AM	#8
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It can only do that for DOCX or HTML, of course... But that is what you need. Chiefly because it only uses the input plugin and doesn't munge your CSS.

12-14-2014, 05:13 PM	#9
unususalsuspex Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2014 Device: Kindle	Thanks to everybody for their help. I never would have thought of the EDIT BOOK option!! Will let you know guys

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