Sideloaded books are syncronized "over the cloud"?

andybasi · 11-13-2014, 03:12 PM

Hello everybody, I'm interested in buy a kobo h20, I'll use it with books bought from Kobo and also with book bought from other sources (mainly Amazon), and I'll load the book acquired from different sources into H20 using Calibre; my question is, these book "sideloaded" using Calibre are syncronized "over the cloud" in the kobo cloud so they can be read from android or windows euipment, using the kobo apps?
Thanks in advance for your help
Andrea

GeoffR · 11-13-2014, 03:15 PM

No. Sync only works with books bought from Kobo.

jackastor · 11-13-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffR

No. Sync only works with books bought from Kobo.

However if you set up Calibre correctly you could download the books to your device via the internet or home wifi.

regards

Jack

andybasi · 11-13-2014, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackastor

However if you set up Calibre correctly you could download the books to your device via the internet or home wifi.

regards

Jack

sorry but this is not clear to me; I'll set up calibre to "receive" the book from different sources, convert them to kepub and then send the books to kobo h20 via usb connection; is there a different way to sideload books?
thanks
Andrea

GeoffR · 11-13-2014, 03:50 PM

You can sideload your books by downloading them to your reader via WiFi from a Calibre server or a Dropbox account etc., you don't need to use the USB cable. However these books won't be in the Kobo cloud, they won't sync reading position, etc., only books bought from Kobo can do that.

jackastor · 11-16-2014, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybasi

sorry but this is not clear to me; I'll set up calibre to "receive" the book from different sources, convert them to kepub and then send the books to kobo h20 via usb connection; is there a different way to sideload books?
thanks
Andrea

Sorry, but basically what Geoff said. Calibre can be configured to run a server and provide your books. Depending on how you set up your router you could connect via any internet connection from any where in the world as long as your calibre server is running and the computer is connected to the internet.
You basically log in via a self defined user name and password from the browser on your kobo, via the ip address of your internet connection and a correctly configured port. if you hit the calibre side of the forums you will find instructions on how to do this. I am not very good at explaining the how its down stuff. And someone here may offer more detailed help.

regards

JAck

eschwartz · 11-16-2014, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackastor

Sorry, but basically what Geoff said. Calibre can be configured to run a server and provide your books. Depending on how you set up your router you could connect via any internet connection from any where in the world as long as your calibre server is running and the computer is connected to the internet.
You basically log in via a self defined user name and password from the browser on your kobo, via the ip address of your internet connection and a correctly configured port. if you hit the calibre side of the forums you will find instructions on how to do this. I am not very good at explaining the how its down stuff. And someone here may offer more detailed help.

regards

JAck

Yep, basically:

You can run a calibre content server, via the Connect/Share dropdown, using "Start Content Server".

This will setup a local website at

Code:

your_computers_ip_address:configured_port

You can type that in to any browser from a computer on the same WiFi network, to access a web-based catalog of your calibre library, complete with search, and download links for the ebook formats.
You can connect this web address to the outside world using port forwarding, see here for a walkthrough: http://www.howtogeek.com/66214/how-t...n-your-router/
Some services that you can use to have a website name instead of an ugly IP address: http://lifehacker.com/the-best-free-...dns-1561556205
Now, you can go to the website you setup, and see all your books, from anywhere in the world. download them to your ereader, tablet, PC/Mac, etc. -- anything with a browser.

Remember when setting this up, under Preferences ==> Sharing ==> Sharing over the Net, you can set a username and password to prevent random people from finding and downloading your books.
You can also set the server to start whenever calibre is started.

Ken Maltby · 11-16-2014, 05:46 PM

Also, current versions of KOreader, running on Kobo (and maybe Kindle) support accessing the local calibre server over Wifi.

Luck;
Ken

ShellShock · 11-17-2014, 03:25 AM

I keep my Calibre library in Dropbox, which is always available - no need to always keep your Calibre PC running. Just be a little bit careful about accessing your library through Dropbox when Calibre is running and also accessing it.

eschwartz · 11-17-2014, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellShock

I keep my Calibre library in Dropbox, which is always available - no need to always keep your Calibre PC running. Just be a little bit careful about accessing your library through Dropbox when Calibre is running and also accessing it.

Indeed, there is that too.

See my sig.

howyoudoin · 12-06-2014, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Yep, basically:

You can run a calibre content server, via the Connect/Share dropdown, using "Start Content Server".

This will setup a local website at

Code:

your_computers_ip_address:configured_port

You can type that in to any browser from a computer on the same WiFi network, to access a web-based catalog of your calibre library, complete with search, and download links for the ebook formats.
You can connect this web address to the outside world using port forwarding, see here for a walkthrough: http://www.howtogeek.com/66214/how-t...n-your-router/
Some services that you can use to have a website name instead of an ugly IP address: http://lifehacker.com/the-best-free-...dns-1561556205
Now, you can go to the website you setup, and see all your books, from anywhere in the world. download them to your ereader, tablet, PC/Mac, etc. -- anything with a browser.

Remember when setting this up, under Preferences ==> Sharing ==> Sharing over the Net, you can set a username and password to prevent random people from finding and downloading your books.
You can also set the server to start whenever calibre is started.

Thank you for the detailed instructions. Is the calibre plugin that exports epubs as kepubs on the fly compliant with this means of transfer? Or can one transfer only plain epubs or previously converted kepubs by this method?

PeterT · 12-06-2014, 10:56 PM

From what I remember the content server does NOT handle kepub format at all. I do think though that davidfor had a patch that would allow content server to handle them.

davidfor · 12-07-2014, 12:54 AM

The calibre server will serve the kepubs, but the Kobo browser doesn't like the file extension that the server uses. Changing it from ".kepub" to ".kepub.epub" fixes this. The patch I have does this. There is some discussion of it here

howyoudoin · 12-07-2014, 11:39 PM

davidfor · 12-08-2014, 12:30 AM

Don't be so fast with the thanks.

I checked in the change last night, but Kovid rejected it. He thinks it should only do this for the Kobo browser. I agree, but was hoping to get away with it

I need to add a test for the useragent. I think I have a handle on what is needed, but, I need to do some more work.

11-13-2014, 03:12 PM	#1
andybasi Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 13116 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Device: kobo	Sideloaded books are syncronized "over the cloud"? Hello everybody, I'm interested in buy a kobo h20, I'll use it with books bought from Kobo and also with book bought from other sources (mainly Amazon), and I'll load the book acquired from different sources into H20 using Calibre; my question is, these book "sideloaded" using Calibre are syncronized "over the cloud" in the kobo cloud so they can be read from android or windows euipment, using the kobo apps? Thanks in advance for your help Andrea

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11-13-2014, 03:15 PM	#2
GeoffR Wizard Posts: 3,821 Karma: 19162882 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Te Riu-a-Māui Device: Kobo Glo	No. Sync only works with books bought from Kobo.

11-13-2014, 03:50 PM	#5
GeoffR Wizard Posts: 3,821 Karma: 19162882 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Te Riu-a-Māui Device: Kobo Glo	You can sideload your books by downloading them to your reader via WiFi from a Calibre server or a Dropbox account etc., you don't need to use the USB cable. However these books won't be in the Kobo cloud, they won't sync reading position, etc., only books bought from Kobo can do that.

11-16-2014, 05:46 PM	#8
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,466 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	Also, current versions of KOreader, running on Kobo (and maybe Kindle) support accessing the local calibre server over Wifi. Luck; Ken

11-17-2014, 03:25 AM	#9
ShellShock Wizard Posts: 1,178 Karma: 2431850 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: IPad Mini 2 Retina	I keep my Calibre library in Dropbox, which is always available - no need to always keep your Calibre PC running. Just be a little bit careful about accessing your library through Dropbox when Calibre is running and also accessing it.

12-06-2014, 10:56 PM	#12
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,313 Karma: 78876004 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	From what I remember the content server does NOT handle kepub format at all. I do think though that davidfor had a patch that would allow content server to handle them.

12-07-2014, 12:54 AM	#13
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12-07-2014, 11:39 PM	#14
howyoudoin how YOU doin? Posts: 1,100 Karma: 7371047 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: India Device: Kindle Keyboard, iPad Pro 10.5”, Kobo Aura H2O, Kobo Libra 2

12-08-2014, 12:30 AM	#15
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	Don't be so fast with the thanks. I checked in the change last night, but Kovid rejected it. He thinks it should only do this for the Kobo browser. I agree, but was hoping to get away with it I need to add a test for the useragent. I think I have a handle on what is needed, but, I need to do some more work.

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