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Old 10-30-2014, 12:07 PM   #1
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Getting Started with H2O

Thought I would cover some basic set up for the H20 to help other people get started.

1) If you ordered from Kobo it creates an account for you, and I had to sign in to it with another computer and update some information, including password, then restart the H20.

2) Calibre was easy to use with basic step by step instructions. I liked these.

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/u...obo-33306.html

3) I would create one file for original downloaded book files. I named mine "downloaded books" Then copy those to another file, I named "books" with subfiles for each format.

4) Follow instructions, click add book in Calibre, locate book format in your "books" file. Calibre will make a copy and put that in the Calibre file. I named that one "Calibre File" and it ask you to set up the location for that file when you start Calibre. I have all of those files in "documents".

This way you will have the original files incase the others get corrupted in the Calibre file.

5) Had no problem converting and sending the book file to the H20. Its a two step process. Simply click "convert" and choose ePub up at the right top corner and it converts it. Then click "send to device" and it automatically sends to H20. That's it.

6) I installed two patches that corrupted the book files. One was to get ride of the DMR file that was suggested but think this was the culprit and had a bug.
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This one was a manual install. Click on preferences, then change calibre behavior, then the plug in, then add plug ins. That's the way to install plugins.

The other was to convert to kepub that was already loaded in Calibre plug ins so only had to activate it.

At any rate, when I tried to convert one of the book formats again to kepub, (click convert, choose kepub from top right corner) the H20 then said the DRM was outdate on two books that were open source and free download.

Finally I had to download an app remover to (app cleaner for macs) to remove all of the Caibre program, deleted all of the book files in the Calibre file, and reset the H20 to factory default, then redownload Caibre to get rid of the plugins.

Hope this helps. For now just do the basic conversion with Calibre. I'm not sure which plug in was buggy. Keep a separate file for your original book formats.

The H20 is awesome. I just wanted to share some basic setup and conversion.
Feel free to add some basic tips and advice! Or if something works for you!

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Old 10-30-2014, 12:55 PM   #2
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There's nothing wrong with with the link you quoted in 6) above , ( but it maybe removed by Mods ) , so long as you pay close attention to what i then says in big print, below where it gives you the download URL:

The download link is the grey button. Uncheck the box “Use our download manager and get recommended downloads”
Do not click on the advert on the right-hand side of the page, even if it says “DOWNLOAD NOW”.
The download will be a .zip file. If your download is a .exe file do not run it,....


what you want is the latest plug-in tools, and only the tools, none of the stuff that's bundled with it.

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Old 10-30-2014, 01:08 PM   #3
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:33 PM   #4
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Thanks Dr Drib. I didn't know I couldn't provide a link. I was also only trying to copy two books that I just bought from Amizon to the Kobo. I only plan to buy books and covert them to the ereader I own.

cybmole, I did only copy the tools and successfully installed the plug in. I don't know which of the two plug ins corrupted the files. Just sharing my experience. If it works for others on a H20, please share.

BTW, for anyone who hasn't used one, buying from Kobo from the H20 is the same as Amazon.

Just a heads up that some of the plug ins can corrupt the file in both Calibre and the H20. If that happens be prepared to completely delete and reinstall everything and factory reset your H20.

Ohterwise doing basic conversation from mobi to epub works great.

Please share what has worked for you with the H20. So far this was my experience on the first night. If you install a plug in do it one at a time and test it.
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:41 PM   #5
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cybmole.. I don't see H20 in your profile. Have you installed both plugins I mentioned and test them? Because that is all I did with a fresh device and it happened on two files that had no copyright restrictions. One was from the Library of Congress. It said the DRM had expired, even after I reloaded the original mobi or epub file without any conversion.

However it there are any other tips that work please share. I'd like to control the space at the header and footer but changing the margins when converting didn't do anything.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:24 PM   #6
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we can't really get into the plug in stuff here. I will jsut say that many many posters here use alf's plugins, if you are going to make wild claims that
"Just a heads up that some of the plug ins can corrupt the file in both Calibre and the H20" then you need to assemble your evidwence & post it on the relevant site, not here.

the plug ins I think you refered to ( from that other site) only affect how books are added to calibre, they have nothign to do with how fiels tehn get from calibre to your or my Kobo devices ( I have the HD not the H20)
There is a choice of output drivers ( not plug ins) for the calibre-kobo link- they are documented here at MR and can be safely discussed as thy have nothing to do with DRM.

you will find the discussion in calibre sub forum for drivers ( search there for Kobo)
if you suspect one of those of corrupting any files then report it, with evidence in the relevant thread. I have read that those drivers are working fine with H2O though.

I can only guess that you chose a wrong plug in, but you'll have to ask at that other site or take it to PM, else you risk a ban,
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:23 PM   #7
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Goodness. I was just trying to make a basic step by step to help people get started with H20. Forget about the DRM plug in for this thread. You can't even access the kindle file unless you have a kindle device so those two books are stuck on Amizon and I can't read them on my new ereader. Transcoding a book I bought to a different format to read on my device is not copyright violation, but I can see how it could be abused.

I was just pointing out this did happen to me and I was very specific. Thats why I included how to restore both program and device back to factory default.

As I said if someone else who has a H20 want to share any kind of patch that works for them that would be great. But maybe this is just not a beginner friendly forum. I was just trying to help.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:32 PM   #8
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Maybe I should opt for the Kindle? I thought the Kobo was too complicated with so many patches that it wasn't beginner friendly. I do like the H20 but my attempt to balance out the header and footer spacing corrupted everything, which was suggested in a recent post a few days ago.
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@John: Maybe you need to explain what exactly you DID do that caused this corruption; trust me, many of us have been using Kobo devices for years without the issues you are having.
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@John: Maybe you need to explain what exactly you DID do that caused this corruption; trust me, many of us have been using Kobo devices for years without the issues you are having.
Hi Peter, I'm sure people have had success with the plugins and patches. I didn't on my first attempt and wanted to cover some basic steps for other beginners on file management and how to restore the device if a plug in corrupts.

I can't post a link to the DRM plug in site. But you probably know which one it was. As I said I successfully installed the plug in following the exact directions.

Then I activated this plug in that was included within calibre.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=220565

That's it and one of them corrupted the files when I tried to convert to kepubs. Disabling and deleting the plug in didn't help. One of the book files wouldn't open and said the DRM was expired, which was strange because I don't think it ever had a DRM.

So I suspect that it might be conflict or bug for the H20. I was hoping another H20 person had tried it. I see some other comments in other threads for installing patches but there is no basic instructions. Maybe I'm just not cool enough for a Kobo?

So far this has been my experience. If anyone can provide some patches that work that would be great. Otherwise I'm just going to use it as is.

I thought providing some basic instructions would help others.

cybmole, i appreciate the message.

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I'd love to see a basic step by step for newbies too, I think it's a great idea. Especially on how to apply the patches to get margins to look balanced. Simple, but detailed enough to make it foolproof so I don't brick it.
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I'd love to see a basic step by step for newbies too, I think it's a great idea. Especially on how to apply the patches to get margins to look balanced. Simple, but detailed enough to make it foolproof so I don't brick it.
Me too! I think it would get more people to try Kobos if there were easy to follow step by step instructions for getting started.
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.. You can't even access the kindle file unless you have a kindle device so those two books are stuck on Amizon and I can't read them on my new ereader.
not so, all you have to do is go via Kindle for PC / Kindle for Mac . Install that and register it to the amazon account that you used for buying the books originally. then

amazon -> kindle for PC -> calibre -> kobo

easy peasy

PS. your decision as to whether to use everything "AS IS ", but from a testing perspective, you were adding two separate things then deciding that one of them was messing up. the logical next step is to add only one of the two things & test that. then remove it add the other one....

if you could confirm the format & the purchase source of the books that messed up, that may help me & others to not give irrelevent/ misleading advice. I was assuming that you had epub format purchased NOT from Kobo, but maybe that was false, as you now refer to 2 books bought from amazon ?

margins: the specific patch that I used for epub on Kobo ( not Kepub) involves creating a small text file and writing it to root directory of the device. it is well explained in other threads but may be buried inside a very long one ( as is often the case with kobo "gems" ) you create a text file called kobo_extra.css with just one line:
@page {margin-top: 12pt; margin-bottom: 0:}
and choose the numbers therein by trial and error until you like the effect

you can optionally have other stuff in that file e.g. I disable widows, orphans, hyphenation with:
@page {margin-top: 12pt; margin-bottom: 0:}
body { orphans: 1; widows: 1; }
body {adobe-hyphenate: none;}

you must use the exact file name and place the file in the root of your device for it to work.
I can upload my file but I'd have to zip it for the board to accept it, so probably faster for you to just type it from scratch
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A guide for new users would be a good idea (not volunteering ).

My advice in general is to keep it simple at first:

- Play around with the device with just a couple of books until you have it working the way you want.

- Don't be afraid to do a factory reset early on and start all over again. Once you have hundreds of books loaded and your device fully customised this becomes more of a hassle.

- Don't apply any firmware patches and don't install the Calibre KoboTouchExtended driver (for converting epub to kepub) until you are sure you need to do something you can't do without them.
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... don't install the Calibre KoboTouchExtended driver (for converting epub to kepub) until you are sure you need to do something you can't do without them....
I know that driver is fine for Aura HD but have others tested it with Aura H2O yet, is it confirmed hat it works OK ? there's no logical reason why it shouldn't, but as the OP suspects it of doing damage...

I did not see anything in the specific thread for that add on

I don't see how it can mess up the device anyway - all it does it send a .kepub book file. So even if that book file is corrupt, it should not stop the device from working with other books , unless there is something very fragile with how Kobo's database works?
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