Sigil 0.8.1 Released

user_none · 10-12-2014, 12:01 PM

blackest · 10-12-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by user_none

Thank you , perfect timing i've just spent the last 12 hours building qt5.3.2 on Mint 16 (32 bit)
I'll get the source for sigil and see if i've been successful. I had no idea building qt would take so long.

cheers

DiapDealer · 10-12-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackest

Thank you , perfect timing i've just spent the last 12 hours building qt5.3.2 on Mint 16 (32 bit)
I'll get the source for sigil and see if i've been successful. I had no idea building qt would take so long.

cheers

You do know that you have no real reason to build Qt, right? It you're just doing it for the practice, I understand... but otherwise, just download/install the Linux 32-bit binary Qt 5.3.2 package and build Sigil against that.

blackest · 10-12-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You do know that you have no real reason to build Qt, right? It you're just doing it for the practice, I understand... but otherwise, just download/install the Linux 32-bit binary Qt 5.3.2 package and build Sigil against that.

not available and no cmake above 2.8 either looks like i need to upgrade my mint install.

DiapDealer · 10-12-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackest

not available and no cmake above 2.8 either looks like i need to upgrade my mint install.

What's not available? I assure you that a 32-bit binary package of Qt 5.3.2 for Linux is available. I just used it to build Sigil on Linux Mint 15 the other day. And no need to update Mint, just build/install cmake 3 from source. It's fairly painless--especially if you already have an older version of cmake installed. If you got Qt to build, cmake should be a breeze.

user_none · 10-12-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackest

not available...

DiapDealer is referring to Qt's generic installable Linux package. The one they provide.

Ghitulescu · 10-13-2014, 03:14 AM

So XP is no longer supported?
Any reason why?

HarryT · 10-13-2014, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghitulescu

So XP is no longer supported?
Any reason why?

Presumably the same reason that Calibre no longer supports XP: Qt5 doesn't work properly on XP.

Ghitulescu · 10-13-2014, 04:19 AM

Why is QT5 so important?

DiapDealer · 10-13-2014, 05:34 AM

It's only the cross-platform UI framework upon which Sigil is built.

Ghitulescu · 10-13-2014, 06:59 AM

I know that.

The question was however what QT5 has to offer that the previous hasn't. I mean, as a developer, I would rather use a version that I know all its issues (and workarounds) instead of going with newer versions that solves some issues but add others (which are not even known, and take time to debug them).

DiapDealer · 10-13-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghitulescu

I know that.

The question was however what QT5 has to offer that the previous hasn't. I mean, as a developer, I would rather use a version that I know all its issues (and workarounds) instead of going with newer versions that solves some issues but add others (which are not even known, and take time to debug them).

There is no such version. Qt5 was rather new when Sigil chose to integrate it, but is now maturing quite nicely. It has its bugs, sure--just as its predecessor still continues to have unresolved bugs that plagued previous versions of Sigil. The reason to use Qt5 is because Qt4 will eventually fade away (and porting is no trivial process). There comes a "bite the bullet" moment in all development when you rely on frameworks that continue to evolve.

But bugs have nothing to do with why XP sometimes struggles with Qt5.

JSWolf · 10-13-2014, 08:36 AM

A lot of XP installs are on computers with processors that are not up to the task. The processors are too old. They need to at least support SSE2. So what would happen is people with too old hardware would install Sigil and have it fail and then want support for it when it's the computer that's the problem.

theducks · 10-13-2014, 10:32 AM

QT5 has some new bugs, yes.
But it also fixed some other issues that was holding other things back.

M$ ending XP support just helped

dropping 'maintain compatibility' self imposed restraint

Sigil7.x will not run on my old AMD Athelon (no SSE2), so now I just use it for archiving as it still connects to my network.

I consider myself lucky that I have not hit walls before this.

blackest · 10-14-2014, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by user_none

DiapDealer is referring to Qt's generic installable Linux package. The one they provide.

That did the trick

my build of qt didn't have qtwebkit built for some reason
so the download was the better and faster option.
The preview window is working without any real problems now, although i can't seem to put the preview on a separate desktop to the main editor. However there is no segmentation fault crash when moving it around which did exist in 0.8.0

Anyway thats one successful build on mint16 32bit on a netbook

10-12-2014, 12:01 PM	#1
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Ghitulescu Fanatic Posts: 563 Karma: 403106 Join Date: Aug 2014 Device: PRS-T1	I know that. The question was however what QT5 has to offer that the previous hasn't. I mean, as a developer, I would rather use a version that I know all its issues (and workarounds) instead of going with newer versions that solves some issues but add others (which are not even known, and take time to debug them).

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10-13-2014, 10:32 AM	#14
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,981 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	QT5 has some new bugs, yes. But it also fixed some other issues that was holding other things back. M$ ending XP support just helped dropping 'maintain compatibility' self imposed restraint Sigil7.x will not run on my old AMD Athelon (no SSE2), so now I just use it for archiving as it still connects to my network. I consider myself lucky that I have not hit walls before this.

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