no photo cover with download

moonshot · 01-09-2014, 06:03 AM

I've only had my Kobo since Christmas so I am still learning what ereaders good points are and its limitations are as well.
I have downloaded six books to date. Yesterday I downloaded the new Peter Robinson book but it did not download the cover photo. Also it says it has 330 pages yet the zhardback version according to Amazon has 441 pages. I use normal font size and with a 6 inch screen I though the Kobo would use more pages that a book.
My question is, really about the cover photo. Should I always get a cover page or are these things a bit hit and miss.
I guess I will find out about the page count when I read the book.

Yapyap · 01-09-2014, 07:04 AM

Cover art is up to the publisher. Some publishers (most these days) include it, some don't.

The number of pages in ebooks is counted differently, depending on the software. I don't know about Kobo's on-device software, but Adobe Digital Editions page count is often much, much smaller than the hardback or paperback versions (I assume, among other reasons, that ADE leaves out all the chapter start and end half-pages, empty pages, etc, when counting the pages, in addition to other things).

Your chosen font size, margins, line spacing shouldn't have any relevance to whatever page count is given - it's likely that you'll be on the "same page" (same page number will remain) for a number of page turns.

DrNefario · 01-09-2014, 08:18 AM

It annoys me when there's no proper cover, especially on the Kobo where quite a lot of use is made of it. (I probably don't even notice on the Kindle.)

I expect it's a way of skimping on payments to artists and designers.

PeterT · 01-09-2014, 08:55 AM

Remember; it's NOT Kobo who decides on the presence or lack thereof of the cover; it's the actual book publisher.

theducks · 01-09-2014, 02:49 PM

And also remember the cover can only be used in an e-book IF the publisher obtained the rights for e-book use.

For many backlist titles, they did not Know they would be needing e-book rights when the contracts were signed

We won't talk about the Artists

beliefs on what can be stopped by withholding e-book rights.

crich70 · 01-12-2014, 12:53 AM

Calibre can sometimes be helpful with finding covers for books.

01-09-2014, 06:03 AM	#1
moonshot Connoisseur Posts: 63 Karma: 117320 Join Date: Dec 2013 Device: Kobo touch	no photo cover with download I've only had my Kobo since Christmas so I am still learning what ereaders good points are and its limitations are as well. I have downloaded six books to date. Yesterday I downloaded the new Peter Robinson book but it did not download the cover photo. Also it says it has 330 pages yet the zhardback version according to Amazon has 441 pages. I use normal font size and with a 6 inch screen I though the Kobo would use more pages that a book. My question is, really about the cover photo. Should I always get a cover page or are these things a bit hit and miss. I guess I will find out about the page count when I read the book.

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01-09-2014, 07:04 AM	#2
Yapyap Guru Posts: 861 Karma: 3543721 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Estonia Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPad 3, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge	Cover art is up to the publisher. Some publishers (most these days) include it, some don't. The number of pages in ebooks is counted differently, depending on the software. I don't know about Kobo's on-device software, but Adobe Digital Editions page count is often much, much smaller than the hardback or paperback versions (I assume, among other reasons, that ADE leaves out all the chapter start and end half-pages, empty pages, etc, when counting the pages, in addition to other things). Your chosen font size, margins, line spacing shouldn't have any relevance to whatever page count is given - it's likely that you'll be on the "same page" (same page number will remain) for a number of page turns.

01-09-2014, 08:18 AM	#3
DrNefario Wizard Posts: 2,187 Karma: 12000000 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle, Kobo Touch, Nook SimpleTouch	It annoys me when there's no proper cover, especially on the Kobo where quite a lot of use is made of it. (I probably don't even notice on the Kindle.) I expect it's a way of skimping on payments to artists and designers.

01-09-2014, 08:55 AM	#4
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,294 Karma: 78876004 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	Remember; it's NOT Kobo who decides on the presence or lack thereof of the cover; it's the actual book publisher.

01-09-2014, 02:49 PM	#5
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,897 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	And also remember the cover can only be used in an e-book IF the publisher obtained the rights for e-book use. For many backlist titles, they did not Know they would be needing e-book rights when the contracts were signed We won't talk about the Artists beliefs on what can be stopped by withholding e-book rights.

01-12-2014, 12:53 AM	#6
crich70 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for Pc (netbook)	Calibre can sometimes be helpful with finding covers for books.

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