Extra paragraph marks in ePub

[Carl A. Carlsson]

First time user here.

I apologize for not reading the documentation. This is likely a one time use, and I have a huge To Do list. I'm hoping someone with help me slam dunk this problem so I can move on.

I imported a Mac Pages iPub document for the purpose of making it recognize my TOC. Worked like a charm. Thanks to the programmers.

However, it added extra paragraph marks to the Book View. HTML example follows:

<p class="s6">Embarked onboard ship .... but friends must part.</p>

<p class="s6">The ship left the wharf .... for the comfort of all.</p>

In the Book View there are two paragraph marks, 4 spaces, and one more paragraph mark between the text within the <p>....<\p> pairs. In the original there was a single paragraph mark.

An explanation or just a fix would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Carl A. Carlson

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Carl A. Carlsson

First time user here.

I apologize for not reading the documentation. This is likely a one time use, and I have a huge To Do list. I'm hoping someone with help me slam dunk this problem so I can move on.

I imported a Mac Pages iPub document for the purpose of making it recognize my TOC. Worked like a charm. Thanks to the programmers.

However, it added extra paragraph marks to the Book View. HTML example follows:

<p class="s6">Embarked onboard ship .... but friends must part.</p>

<p class="s6">The ship left the wharf .... for the comfort of all.</p>

In the Book View there are two paragraph marks, 4 spaces, and one more paragraph mark between the text within the <p>....<\p> pairs. In the original there was a single paragraph mark.

An explanation or just a fix would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Carl A. Carlson

Blank lines in Code View don't count. The exist only for Human coders.
Only lines with tags , count. Even then many devices ignore repetitive tag pairs shown below.


<p> </p> is a blank line (really a line with a single space)

Imho, it is better to set a top or Bottom Margin to gain normal paragraph spacing.
You can adjust the 'gap' from a single CSS entry

[mrmikel]

HTML is a language unto itself. It is readable, but it is not read the same by display programs. What you do in a word processing program may or may not work well in HTML. As theducks said, don't put blank lines in for spacing. Instead set the top and bottom margin for paragraphs.

If styles are available in a word processing program, learn them and use them. They translate better into HTML than typewriter like blank lines, etc.

[theducks]

<p>paragraph 1</p><p>Paragraph 2</p>

is valid and the results are still the same:
paragraph 1
Paragraph 2

[Carl A. Carlsson]

My bad.

My question was not clear. The extra lines are in the Book View and in the saved ePub file when viewed in Kindle Previewer.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Carl A. Carlsson

My bad.

My question was not clear. The extra lines are in the Book View and in the saved ePub file when viewed in Kindle Previewer.

What shows in Code View

The solutions are different

[DiapDealer]

You need to check what kind styling is being applied to the class "s6".

and in the saved ePub file when viewed in Kindle Previewer.

Kindle Previewer doesn't view/read ePubs. It converts them into a Kindlebook. At which point it's no longer in the Sigil/ePub Realm.

You need to see what the epub looks like in an epub reading app such as ADE (or on a device that reads epubs), and get it looking the way you want it to look before you even start thinking about what happens to it after it's converted to a Kindlebook.

Also look for any:

white-space: pre;

or

white-space: pre-wrap;

in the style sheet (or any inline styles) that may being applied to something, and get rid of it. I seem to recall something about an i(something) app that included that attribute for some silly reason. That will certainly produce results similar to what you're describing.

[Carl A. Carlsson]

Code View shows:

<p class="s6">Embarked onboard ship .... but friends must part.</p>

<p class="s6">The ship left the wharf .... for the comfort of all.</p>

I have of course removed some of the text: "...."

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Carl A. Carlsson

Code View shows:

<p class="s6">Embarked onboard ship .... but friends must part.</p>

<p class="s6">The ship left the wharf .... for the comfort of all.</p>

I have of course removed some of the text: "...."

Class .s6 is adding margins or Linespacing

The former is between paragraphs
The later is every line

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by theducks

Class .s6 is adding margins or Linespacing

The former is between paragraphs
The later is every line

Yes, but, Ducky:

What he's saying here:

In the Book View there are two paragraph marks, 4 spaces, and one more paragraph mark between the text within the <p>....<\p> pairs. In the original there was a single paragraph mark.

Doesn't make sense. He says he's seeing two paragraph marks, 4 "spaces" (I don't know if he means lines, or spaces), and one more paragraph mark (pilcrow?) in BOOKVIEW.

I mean, if he just meant that there was too much vertical whitespace, wouldn't he have said that? What about seeing paragraph "marks" in book view? "Two paragraph marks, 4 spaces, and one more paragraph mark." Are you thinking that he means 6 blank lines between paragraphs, or...?

Hitch

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Yes, but, Ducky:

What he's saying here:



Doesn't make sense. He says he's seeing two paragraph marks, 4 "spaces" (I don't know if he means lines, or spaces), and one more paragraph mark (pilcrow?) in BOOKVIEW.

I mean, if he just meant that there was too much vertical whitespace, wouldn't he have said that? What about seeing paragraph "marks" in book view? "Two paragraph marks, 4 spaces, and one more paragraph mark." Are you thinking that he means 6 blank lines between paragraphs, or...?

Hitch

If your Pilcrow showing in BV theory is correct, how is this a Sigil problem?
Sounds like GIGO to me.

[DiapDealer]

We need a screen-shot of both code-view and book-view, I think.

[Toxaris]

I agree, a screenshot should make this clear.

[DiapDealer]

Until then, my money's on "white-space: pre;" from iPub creating swathes of unnecessary whitespace.

I have no idea what "paragraph mark" might mean. If it's not a pilcrow, then perhaps it's the xml entity equivalents of the angle brackets. You know... Tidy Gone Wild when trying its best to fix some particularly badly formed html? Leaving what renders as html code in book view?

Just guessing though. I'm thinking our OP has already moved on to the next item on their To Do list.

[Carl A. Carlsson]

Sorry Guys I thought I had closed this question.

The problem was the pretty print feature on Sigil was adding stuff to the file that was interacting with Apple's HTML. It was a question of conflicting styles of using HTML not a bug. The solution was to turn pretty print and allied options off before loading the file.