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Old 11-10-2013, 02:11 AM   #1
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Handling of series metadata

Is series information (name of series and number of this work in that series, at least) handled in some standard or consistent way in epub-land? That is, is there something I can put in the epub that many or most readers will recognize and use?

Calibre puts something like this in a "write to disk" epub:

<meta name="calibre:series" content="Bresden Files"/>
<meta name="calibre:series_index" content="14.0"/>

but that doesn't look like something most readers would recognize.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:56 AM   #2
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That's because unfortunately, nobody has really come up with a standard way of dealing with these things (except calibre of course, YAY calibre!!!).

I just go with putting the info in the title.

Calibre plugboards are your friend here, try this:

Code:
{title}{series:| (|, }{series_index:|Book |)}
giving you for example, based on your example of the dresden files,

Cold Days (Dresden Files, Book 14)
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:44 AM   #3
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Is series information (name of series and number of this work in that series, at least) handled in some standard or consistent way in epub-land?
Alas, no. The ePub spec (and the Dublic Core it is based on) has no entry for series name or volume number. The calibre way is as good as any other (and probably the closest we can have to a de-facto standard at the moment).
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:56 AM   #4
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In my fictitious example, I used "Bresden Files" with a B. Don't want no trouble 'round heah.

I see that the Moon+ reader apparently somehow "knows" series, and index within a series, and I think it's divining it from the epub. What is Moon+ looking at?
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:03 AM   #5
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I just go with putting the info in the title.

Calibre plugboards are your friend here, try this:

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{title}{series:| (|, }{series_index:|Book |)}
giving you for example, based on your example of the dresden files,

Cold Days (Dresden Files, Book 14)
It took me a while to catch this - the title in the epub in Calibre is not changed by this, but the title in the epub sent to the device (and maybe "write to disk" also) is. Correct?
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Alas, no. The ePub spec (and the Dublic Core it is based on) has no entry for series name or volume number. The calibre way is as good as any other (and probably the closest we can have to a de-facto standard at the moment).
Y'know, we really need a sticky on that somewhere, or...? We get asked this at least 5-6/annually. About series. It's residual Calibre stuff, I think (the idea that ePUBs can identify other ePUBs that are somehow related to them), but we should try to think of a way to make this more obvious, at least, until the DC is updated, if ever. Same for the dreaded UUID question, IMHO.

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In my fictitious example, I used "Bresden Files" with a B. Don't want no trouble 'round heah.

I see that the Moon+ reader apparently somehow "knows" series, and index within a series, and I think it's divining it from the epub. What is Moon+ looking at?
Well I don't know about Moon+ but I know that Mantano will directly read the Calibre generated series metadata. I use it all the time.
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