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Old 07-24-2013, 03:24 PM   #1
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Keeping folder order on sdcard library

Hi all,

On my hard drive, epubs are sorted into folders, subfolders, sub subfolders...
I would like to have exactly the same organization on my sdcard library.


Is there a setting or a way to keep things as simple as having the same folder hierarchy?
No multliple files, no extraction of the cover...

Thanks for your help

François
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Hi all,

On my hard drive, epubs are sorted into folders, subfolders, sub subfolders...
I would like to have exactly the same organization on my sdcard library.


Is there a setting or a way to keep things as simple as having the same folder hierarchy?
No multliple files, no extraction of the cover...

Thanks for your help

François
The Save to Disk or Save to Device templates do this task
The simple ones (relatively ) use the field (column data)

example: (do note: there are logic flaws with this example, but it is valid)

{authors}\{series}\{series_index}{title}
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Hi all,

On my hard drive, epubs are sorted into folders, subfolders, sub subfolders...
I would like to have exactly the same organization on my sdcard library.


Is there a setting or a way to keep things as simple as having the same folder hierarchy?
No multliple files, no extraction of the cover...

Thanks for your help

François
@fxp33 - If you mean can you change the organisation of the Calibre library folders from its Library/Author/Title structure then the answer is - no.

If you mean can you 'replicate' Calibres Library/Author/Title structure on the SD that you use in your Kobo then the answer is - yes.

Most Calibre functions only recognise 2 levels of folders - Author folders and Title subfolders, including save to disk. If you want Library folders on your SD you will have to create them manually and use them as the Destination directory in the Save to Disk dialogue.

The settings as shown in attachment should achieve you want - epubs only, no cover or metadata files etc.

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Old 07-26-2013, 01:44 AM   #4
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Thank you guys, I think I understand a bit better what I can do with Calibre and what I can't do.

For instance, I won't be able to have inside Calibre Library the same architecture as on my hard drive folder:
  • Litterature
    • French
      • Dumas, Alexandre
      • Hugo, Victor
        • Hugo, Victor - Notre Dame.epub
        • Hugo, Victor - Les Misérables
    • American
    • English
    • German
  • Philosophy
    • aesthetics
    • moral
    • politics
    • epistemology
  • Science Fiction
  • Poetry
  • Science

Because Calibre Only takes meta data to organize books inside the Library.


Is there a way to import my hierarchy "by subjects" inside Calibre Library?

Maybe there is an easy way to find all the "litterature / french" ebooks and tag them inside Calibre after import ?




Thank you again for your explanations

François
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Is there a way to import my hierarchy "by subjects" inside Calibre Library?

Maybe there is an easy way to find all the "litterature / french" ebooks and tag them inside Calibre after import ?


Thank you again for your explanations

François
@fxp33 - if you want to use Calibre to anything like its fullest extent (nobody uses all of it) then you will probably have to 'let go' of the notion of using the file system as the primary access path to your books. Instead you set up the hierarchy(ies) you want independently of the file system using the metadata stored in Calibre's database.
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Best place to start is by reading what's here ==>> http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/sub_groups.html

Then explore different alternatives, you may find as I did - that I can organise my books in a much more flexible structure than I could if I were I to use 'normal' file system facilities, and more importantly with a heck of a lot less effort to maintain as I add more books.

I think you should be able to use the elements in your current folder hierarchy to populate the 'tag' tree as you add files from your folders. Its something you may want to explore in a separate thread once you've read the basics about Calibres sub grouping facility. Its not something I've done myself.
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I 'visualise' Calibre's folder system as the stacks where the books are kept, and the GUI and the database that's behind it, as an advanced indexing system that I can bend to my will.
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If you want to maintain a folder structure that does not conform to the Calibre model, you can still use some of Calibre features
  • Calibre can be used via the command line interface for tasks like conversion, updating the metadata within a book etc ==>> see http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/cli/cli-index.html
  • You can maintain the database via the GUI as an index/catalogue but have the book files themselves (.epubs, .pdfs) in a 'foreign' folder structure. A number of active MR members have taken this approach. But Calibre functions that act on the book (format) files themselves wont see the 'foreign' folder structure.

Its also possible to use a hybrid approach - as I do

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Thank you guys, I think I understand a bit better what I can do with Calibre and what I can't do.

For instance, I won't be able to have inside Calibre Library the same architecture as on my hard drive folder:
  • Litterature
    • French
      • Dumas, Alexandre
      • Hugo, Victor
        • Hugo, Victor - Notre Dame.epub
        • Hugo, Victor - Les Misérables
    • American
    • English
    • German
  • Philosophy
    • aesthetics
    • moral
    • politics
    • epistemology
  • Science Fiction
  • Poetry
  • Science

Because Calibre Only takes meta data to organize books inside the Library.


Is there a way to import my hierarchy "by subjects" inside Calibre Library?

Maybe there is an easy way to find all the "litterature / french" ebooks and tag them inside Calibre after import ?




Thank you again for your explanations

François
BR's advice is good. Let Calibre manage you book Library.
Now, if you want them delivered to a device in the above hierarchy.
that is probably possible using Hierarchical fields/tags
Litterature
French
becomes: Litterature.French

Your export template will get a whole lot fancier
Sample of the JUST the series portion of mine
Code:
template("-series/{series:subitems(0,1)||/}{series:subitems(1,2)||/}
to handle the difference between a simple series and one with branches
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:21 PM   #7
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Hi Guys,

Holliday took got me far away from my computer

@betterRed: thank you very much for pointing me in the subgrouping direction... I use command line for batch conversion, but nothing else right now

@theduck: whouah, the template is juste amazing... it sends me back to the old days when I had to juggle for the first time with regular expression not knowing what xpath was

I keep you posted on my experiments

Thanks a lot again for your detailed answers. I guess these two replies could become a good start for a tutorial.

François
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