whatever happened to autofix closing tags ?

cybmole · 05-22-2013, 12:49 AM

once upon a time - in sigil 4, 5, 6 I could regex a fix e.g. to all chapter headings
like this
find <p class "whatever" >CHAPTER
replace <h2 class "whatever" >CHAPTER
replace all
and sigil would helpfully do the closing tags to match, so no need for long complicated regex

doesn't work for me now in v7 - what default settings do I need to change or has this feature now been "upgraded" out of existence

I tried the obvious toggles for tidy/pretty print....

Toxaris · 05-22-2013, 03:33 AM

What is keeping you from including the closing tag in your regex? Hoping that Tidy (who actually did that) will guess the correct end tag can lead to quite unexpected results.

Sure, the regex might become a little more complex, but it will give better predictable results.

exaltedwombat · 05-22-2013, 04:27 AM

Doesn't Tidy still do it? If you dare!

cybmole · 05-22-2013, 04:47 AM

it is much easier to let tidy do it but I could not get it to work in v7.

the reason for not doing the whole thing in regex is just complexity. you have to capture what comes after CHAPTER & embed in the replace line, plus I hate it when "Upgrades" take away stuff takes worked before.

i did one the "hard way" yesterday but then decided to ask if my old workflow could still be made to work.

stripping double embedded blockquotes is also much harder now that you can't ask tidy to do half of the work

it was very reliable before so long as you used replace all and not just replace. not just for this but also for upgrading/ downgrading header tags e.g. <h1 to <h2. I got used to doing a visual check before saving so if the book did get screwed up I'd discard & start over.

Hitch · 05-22-2013, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybmole

it is much easier to let tidy do it but I could not get it to work in v7.

the reason for not doing the whole thing in regex is just complexity. you have to capture what comes after CHAPTER & embed in the replace line, plus I hate it when "Upgrades" take away stuff takes worked before.

i did one the "hard way" yesterday but then decided to ask if my old workflow could still be made to work.

stripping double embedded blockquotes is also much harder now that you can't ask tidy to do half of the work

it was very reliable before so long as you used replace all and not just replace. not just for this but also for upgrading/ downgrading header tags e.g. <h1 to <h2. I got used to doing a visual check before saving so if the book did get screwed up I'd discard & start over.

cyb:

Gotta say, my one big (inadvertent) experience with allowing PP to "tidy" my tags was pretty freaking disastrous, resulting in ye olden PSO'D. I would not recommend this.

Hitch

cybmole · 05-22-2013, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitch

cyb:

Gotta say, my one big (inadvertent) experience with allowing PP to "tidy" my tags was pretty freaking disastrous, resulting in ye olden PSO'D. I would not recommend this.

Hitch

ah but you are a pro - you are supposed to do it the hard way

i want my fumbling amateur hack back

mrmikel · 05-22-2013, 06:38 AM

This was brought up shortly after this latest version came out. I think meme said at that time that they would look at it, but it would take a new approach based on tags instead of what they are doing now .

I think this is their point of view...no amateur hour stuff that only half works, since the user base is pros and serious amateurs.

cybmole · 05-22-2013, 06:49 AM

hey, I am a serious amateur - I am seriously, some would say obsessively, fussy about the layout of e-books that I read & I'd seriously like this back

mrmikel · 05-22-2013, 07:08 AM

I feel your pain every time I have to get rid of font size=-1 over and over again.

I also feel the pain of trying to regex things that take 10 regexs to get rid of what use to automatically disappear.

But I don't like sections magically disappearing as well, especially after things have just being going great and I haven't saved for half an hour. It ALWAYS happens that way.

DiapDealer · 05-22-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybmole

it was very reliable before so long as you used replace all and not just replace. not just for this but also for upgrading/ downgrading header tags e.g. <h1 to <h2.

The heart wants what the heart wants: I get that.

But for promoting/demoting headers, I heartily recommend moving toward something like...
Find:

Code:

<(/?)h1([^>]+)?>

Replace:

Code:

<\1h2\2>

theducks · 05-22-2013, 09:13 AM

Promoting and Demoting headers were sections included in the Saved Searches 'Samples'

DiapDealer · 05-22-2013, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Promoting and Demoting headers were sections included in the Saved Searches 'Samples'

Yes, they were. I just prefer a method that only (matches|captures|alters) the tags themselves and leaves the stuff between the tags completely out of the equation.

To each their own, though ... certainly.

theducks · 05-22-2013, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Yes, they were. I just prefer a method that only (matches|captures|alters) the tags themselves and leaves the stuff between the tags completely out of the equation.

To each their own, though ... certainly.

With your way, you could jump from H1 to H3 in a single pass by only changing 1 character

05-22-2013, 12:49 AM	#1
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	whatever happened to autofix closing tags ? once upon a time - in sigil 4, 5, 6 I could regex a fix e.g. to all chapter headings like this find <p class "whatever" >CHAPTER replace <h2 class "whatever" >CHAPTER replace all and sigil would helpfully do the closing tags to match, so no need for long complicated regex doesn't work for me now in v7 - what default settings do I need to change or has this feature now been "upgraded" out of existence I tried the obvious toggles for tidy/pretty print....

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05-22-2013, 03:33 AM	#2
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	What is keeping you from including the closing tag in your regex? Hoping that Tidy (who actually did that) will guess the correct end tag can lead to quite unexpected results. Sure, the regex might become a little more complex, but it will give better predictable results.

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exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	Doesn't Tidy still do it? If you dare!

05-22-2013, 04:47 AM	#4
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	it is much easier to let tidy do it but I could not get it to work in v7. the reason for not doing the whole thing in regex is just complexity. you have to capture what comes after CHAPTER & embed in the replace line, plus I hate it when "Upgrades" take away stuff takes worked before. i did one the "hard way" yesterday but then decided to ask if my old workflow could still be made to work. stripping double embedded blockquotes is also much harder now that you can't ask tidy to do half of the work it was very reliable before so long as you used replace all and not just replace. not just for this but also for upgrading/ downgrading header tags e.g. <h1 to <h2. I got used to doing a visual check before saving so if the book did get screwed up I'd discard & start over.

05-22-2013, 06:38 AM	#7
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	This was brought up shortly after this latest version came out. I think meme said at that time that they would look at it, but it would take a new approach based on tags instead of what they are doing now . I think this is their point of view...no amateur hour stuff that only half works, since the user base is pros and serious amateurs.

05-22-2013, 06:49 AM	#8
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	hey, I am a serious amateur - I am seriously, some would say obsessively, fussy about the layout of e-books that I read & I'd seriously like this back

05-22-2013, 07:08 AM	#9
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	I feel your pain every time I have to get rid of font size=-1 over and over again. I also feel the pain of trying to regex things that take 10 regexs to get rid of what use to automatically disappear. But I don't like sections magically disappearing as well, especially after things have just being going great and I haven't saved for half an hour. It ALWAYS happens that way.

05-22-2013, 09:13 AM	#11
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,019 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Promoting and Demoting headers were sections included in the Saved Searches 'Samples'

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