Icon Row Dropdown

mesquite · 07-20-2012, 04:06 PM

I've noticed with some disgust from time to time, not major disgust that the dropdown (secondary row) on the icon row of calibre disappears too quickly even when going through options added by the installation of plugin's. Isn't it possible to have it dropdown on hover or click but if the request by click on the dropdown again will have the secondary row recede? Cause I have a couple of plugin's that have drop down additions and when I select the drop down for a plugin, the menu recede's before I want it to.

Some times I speak nonsense so if I seem vague let me know.

DoctorOhh · 07-20-2012, 10:25 PM

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kovidgoyal · 07-20-2012, 10:28 PM

I have no idea what you mean. The toolbar expansion, which is what I assume you are talking about stays visible until you click on something. In any case you can re-organize the toolbar and even add a secondary always visible toolbar via Preferences->toolbars.

DoctorOhh · 07-20-2012, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesquite

I've noticed with some disgust from time to time, not major disgust that the dropdown (secondary row) on the icon row of calibre disappears too quickly even when going through options added by the installation of plugin's.

Once you select a dropdown menu it will not disappear unless you select something else or hover over a new menu item.

HarryT · 07-21-2012, 04:06 AM

I don't know if this is what the OP is referring to, but I've experienced the same - or a related - problem myself.

On my PC, at the window size I run Calibre at, the menu bar isn't quite wide enough to display the "Preferences" button. If I click the ">>" at the end of menu bar to make it appear, "Preferences" appears at the left side of a second row of the menu bar. No problems there.

The problem is that, of course, my mouse is at the right side of the window (having just clicked ">>") and "Preferences" is at the left side of the window, so I have to move the mouse across to the left to get to it. About half the time, during the process of moving my mouse across the "Preferences", the second row of the menu will spontaneously disappear again, and I have to repeat the process all over again. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 attempts to successfully get to "Preferences" without it disappearing!

It's a trivial thing, but it's something that Calibre has always done for me.

kiwidude · 07-21-2012, 04:18 AM

+1 on what HarryT said, I have had that happen too when I was recently experimenting with Toolbars when developing the Favourites Menu plugin. Not at my computer at the moment to verify the steps but it definitely happened a number of times as HarryT described and I assume is what the OP is referring to.

JohnnyBook · 07-21-2012, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I don't know if this is what the OP is referring to, but I've experienced the same - or a related - problem myself.

On my PC, at the window size I run Calibre at, the menu bar isn't quite wide enough to display the "Preferences" button. If I click the ">>" at the end of menu bar to make it appear, "Preferences" appears at the left side of a second row of the menu bar. No problems there.

The problem is that, of course, my mouse is at the right side of the window (having just clicked ">>") and "Preferences" is at the left side of the window, so I have to move the mouse across to the left to get to it. About half the time, during the process of moving my mouse across the "Preferences", the second row of the menu will spontaneously disappear again, and I have to repeat the process all over again. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 attempts to successfully get to "Preferences" without it disappearing!

It's a trivial thing, but it's something that Calibre has always done for me.

Mine will do the same, BUT, as long as my mouse stays ON the tool bar (either row) the second row does not disapear.

In any case here are 2 possible fixes for this....

First use smaller Icons for the tool bar buttons.
(Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Tool Bar "Icon size")
Second Remove the button names from the tool bar.
(Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Tool Bar "Show text under icons")

Both options will shink the displayed length of the tool bar so it may be that all the buttons are visible in 1 row.

davidfor · 07-21-2012, 04:27 AM

I have had the same problem as mesquite and HarryT. I think the problem is that the second row of icons will also disappear if you move the mouse outside the menubar. Now that I've worked out what I am doing wrong, i should be able to handle it better. But, having a minimum time for the menubar to be expanded or until something was clicked would make it easier.

HarryT · 07-21-2012, 05:09 AM

Yes, if it was possible to make the second row of the menu stay visible until something was clicked, this would be a tremendous improvement. As I say, no big deal - just one of those "it would be nice to have" things.

DoctorOhh · 07-21-2012, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBook

Mine will do the same, BUT, as long as my mouse stays ON the tool bar (either row) the second row does not disapear.

In any case here are 2 possible fixes for this....

It has been so long since I've had enough icons to cause a second row I completely forgot about this instance. There is a third work around. Use Preferences - Toolbar to edit your toolbars. Currently I put many options in the context menu or favorites plugin, (see attached) but previously I used the menu bar to supplement my main toolbar.

mesquite · 07-21-2012, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I don't know if this is what the OP is referring to, but I've experienced the same - or a related - problem myself.

On my PC, at the window size I run Calibre at, the menu bar isn't quite wide enough to display the "Preferences" button. If I click the ">>" at the end of menu bar to make it appear, "Preferences" appears at the left side of a second row of the menu bar. No problems there.

The problem is that, of course, my mouse is at the right side of the window (having just clicked ">>") and "Preferences" is at the left side of the window, so I have to move the mouse across to the left to get to it. About half the time, during the process of moving my mouse across the "Preferences", the second row of the menu will spontaneously disappear again, and I have to repeat the process all over again. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 attempts to successfully get to "Preferences" without it disappearing!

It's a trivial thing, but it's something that Calibre has always done for me.

Yes, exactly! and YES, it is a bit trivial but just something to be aware of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwidude

+1 on what HarryT said, I have had that happen too when I was recently experimenting with Toolbars when developing the Favourites Menu plugin. Not at my computer at the moment to verify the steps but it definitely happened a number of times as HarryT described and I assume is what the OP is referring to.

I have your "Quality Check" Plugin installed and it just so happens to be on my second row as well. It also contributes to the problem slightly. The little side arrow (that when clicked shows the multiple options) is at the very bottom and when I click it the secondary row disappears but the menu for the options remains. Kiwidude, I've attached a couple of screen shots for you to look at.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBook

Mine will do the same, BUT, as long as my mouse stays ON the tool bar (either row) the second row does not disapear.

In any case here are 2 possible fixes for this....

First use smaller Icons for the tool bar buttons.
(Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Tool Bar "Icon size")
Second Remove the button names from the tool bar.
(Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Tool Bar "Show text under icons")

Both options will shink the displayed length of the tool bar so it may be that all the buttons are visible in 1 row.

Done that first suggestion, still an issue. (not shown in attached images, done after the fact) Even removed some of the options to bring some of the second row icons onto the first.

kovidgoyal · 07-21-2012, 10:46 AM

This behavior is hardcoded in the Qt toolbar class, so it isn't going to change. Use two toolbars, or resize the buttons so they all fit, or re-order them so that only rarely used ones are in the hidden area.

And note that you do not have to click the little arrow to show the popup. Just right click anywhere in the button.

mesquite · 07-21-2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

This behavior is hardcoded in the Qt toolbar class, so it isn't going to change. Use two toolbars, or resize the buttons so they all fit, or re-order them so that only rarely used ones are in the hidden area.

And note that you do not have to click the little arrow to show the popup. Just right click anywhere in the button.

That's cool, I've been working on that to move it to where the icons are on one row.

HarryT · 07-21-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

This behavior is hardcoded in the Qt toolbar class, so it isn't going to change. Use two toolbars, or resize the buttons so they all fit, or re-order them so that only rarely used ones are in the hidden area.

Any idea why it is, though, that the second row of the menu "closes up" again in this seemingly random manner? Its behaviour seems to be pretty arbitrary.

DoctorOhh · 07-21-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesquite

Done that first suggestion, still an issue. (not shown in attached images, done after the fact) Even removed some of the options to bring some of the second row icons onto the first.

Try Kiwidudes Favorites plugin as shown in my image above.

07-20-2012, 04:06 PM	#1
mesquite A tree. Posts: 25 Karma: 445628 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Library Device: iPad	Icon Row Dropdown I've noticed with some disgust from time to time, not major disgust that the dropdown (secondary row) on the icon row of calibre disappears too quickly even when going through options added by the installation of plugin's. Isn't it possible to have it dropdown on hover or click but if the request by click on the dropdown again will have the secondary row recede? Cause I have a couple of plugin's that have drop down additions and when I select the drop down for a plugin, the menu recede's before I want it to. Some times I speak nonsense so if I seem vague let me know.

07-20-2012, 10:25 PM	#2
DoctorOhh US Navy, Retired Posts: 9,896 Karma: 13806776 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Carolina Device: Icarus Illumina XL HD, Kindle PaperWhite SE 11th Gen	Moderator Notice Moved the thread to general calibre forum. The development forum is not the place to ask for new features or whine about an existing feature unless you make it clear you are willing to develop or improve the feature yourself. Please read the "PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING - The purpose of this subforum" sticky post before posting again in the Development forum. Last edited by DoctorOhh; 07-20-2012 at 10:27 PM.

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07-20-2012, 10:28 PM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I have no idea what you mean. The toolbar expansion, which is what I assume you are talking about stays visible until you click on something. In any case you can re-organize the toolbar and even add a secondary always visible toolbar via Preferences->toolbars.

07-21-2012, 04:06 AM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I don't know if this is what the OP is referring to, but I've experienced the same - or a related - problem myself. On my PC, at the window size I run Calibre at, the menu bar isn't quite wide enough to display the "Preferences" button. If I click the ">>" at the end of menu bar to make it appear, "Preferences" appears at the left side of a second row of the menu bar. No problems there. The problem is that, of course, my mouse is at the right side of the window (having just clicked ">>") and "Preferences" is at the left side of the window, so I have to move the mouse across to the left to get to it. About half the time, during the process of moving my mouse across the "Preferences", the second row of the menu will spontaneously disappear again, and I have to repeat the process all over again. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 attempts to successfully get to "Preferences" without it disappearing! It's a trivial thing, but it's something that Calibre has always done for me.

07-21-2012, 04:18 AM	#6
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,729 Karma: 2197770 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	+1 on what HarryT said, I have had that happen too when I was recently experimenting with Toolbars when developing the Favourites Menu plugin. Not at my computer at the moment to verify the steps but it definitely happened a number of times as HarryT described and I assume is what the OP is referring to.

07-21-2012, 04:27 AM	#8
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	I have had the same problem as mesquite and HarryT. I think the problem is that the second row of icons will also disappear if you move the mouse outside the menubar. Now that I've worked out what I am doing wrong, i should be able to handle it better. But, having a minimum time for the menubar to be expanded or until something was clicked would make it easier.

07-21-2012, 05:09 AM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, if it was possible to make the second row of the menu stay visible until something was clicked, this would be a tremendous improvement. As I say, no big deal - just one of those "it would be nice to have" things.

07-21-2012, 10:46 AM	#12
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	This behavior is hardcoded in the Qt toolbar class, so it isn't going to change. Use two toolbars, or resize the buttons so they all fit, or re-order them so that only rarely used ones are in the hidden area. And note that you do not have to click the little arrow to show the popup. Just right click anywhere in the button.

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