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Old 12-07-2007, 04:41 PM   #1
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The Cult of Kindle? Are we there yet?

I know we've talked quite a lot about the Amazon Kindle lately, but does this already make us members of a cult? Adrian Kingsley-Hughes of ZDNet thinks so, and he takes it with a pinch of salt of what we Kindle fans have to say about our beloved device.

More interestingly, he added these two quotes that may be worth discussing:

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When someone buys a book, they are also buying the right to resell that book, to loan it out, or to even give it away if they want. Everyone understands this.

Jeff Bezos, Open letter to Author's Guild, 2002
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You may not sell, rent, lease, distribute, broadcast, sublicense or otherwise assign any rights to the Digital Content or any portion of it to any third party, and you may not remove any proprietary notices or labels on the Digital Content. In addition, you may not, and you will not encourage, assist or authorize any other person to, bypass, modify, defeat or circumvent security features that protect the Digital Content.

Amazon, Kindle Terms of Service, 2007
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:50 PM   #2
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I know we've talked quite a lot about the Amazon Kindle lately, but does this already make us members of a cult? Adrian Kingsley-Hughes of ZDNet thinks so, and he takes it with a pinch of salt of what we Kindle fans have to say about our beloved device.

More interestingly, he added these two quotes that may be worth discussing:
Does anyone really believe that Amazon has a any choice but to include that in the TOS? Without publisher support, the whole deal is down the tubes. Also, when the Kindle DRM is cracked, they have to be able to make the case that they did everything in their power to avoid it, otherwise someone's legal team will go after them for liability.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:02 PM   #3
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Ummm, I can resell, loan out, or give away my CDs but not my MP3s. That's how I see pbooks vs. ebooks.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:08 PM   #4
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Ummm, I can resell, loan out, or give away my CDs but not my MP3s. That's how I see pbooks vs. ebooks.
If you've ripped a backup copy of the CD to your computer before you lend it, how is it different from lending an MP3?
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:30 PM   #5
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If you've ripped a backup copy of the CD to your computer before you lend it, how is it different from lending an MP3?
The speed at which a "lent" mp3 can end up being lent to people around the world simultaneously.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:31 PM   #6
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I was just "lending" it to 20,000 of my closest friends. Honest.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:38 PM   #7
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We need a "sit back and munch popcorn" smiley... I sense the floor show is about to start up again.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:41 PM   #8
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If y'all are saying it's not safe, I understand. But TallMomof2 said "can not", not "should not".

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:43 PM   #9
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We need a "sit back and munch popcorn" smiley... I sense the floor show is about to start up again.
I think we need a tar pit icon we can flag a thread with to denote that it's gone over to the DRM debate. For the last couple of days I've been clicking on threads so hopefully only to find more
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Has anyone done a weekly DRM debate count?
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Has anyone done a weekly DRM debate count?
We could have a banner with a little chart of the top horse-beaters.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:51 PM   #12
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How did I miss that popcorn smiley??

Yes, a "tarpit" icon for a whole thread would be an excellent idea.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:52 PM   #14
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When someone buys a book, they are also buying the right to resell that book, to loan it out, or to even give it away if they want. Everyone understands this.
Well, things change. Everyone should understand that, too. You can't resell an e-book the way you would a printed book. Oh, well. Moving on.
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