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Legality or otherwise of removing DRM in the UK
I've seen people argue back and forth whether or not it's legal to remove DRM in the US. It's generally said that it's legal in the UK, because there is no DMCA or similar law making it illegal.
However, it is my understanding that in the UK, it is illegal to make an unauthorised copy of a copyrighted work, even for personal use. The oft-quoted example being that it's illegal to take a legally-purchased CD and rip it to MP3s so that you can listen to it on your iPod. I would imagine that removing the DRM would qualify as making a copy, in the same way that format-shifting qualifies. If that's true, then I'd further imagine that it's illegal in the UK. Can anyone confirm or contradict this? I'm only interested in the legality, I really don't want to get into a discussion about the ethics or morals of removing DRM. Also, note that I'm asking about UK law - please don't cite "fair use" - UK law doesn't have a fair use provision. Last edited by avantman42; 02-01-2012 at 03:07 AM. Reason: clarification |
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DRM removal is not illegal in the UK; there is no law which prohibits it. Format conversion technically is illegal, but nobody has ever been prosecuted for it, and the recording industry body in the UK has said that they will not take action against anyone shifting formats for personal use (eg ripping a legally-bought CD to an MP3 player).
Note, however, that DRM removal is very likely in violation of the licensing terms of the bookstore from where you've purchased the book. It is, for example, a violation of Amazon's T&Cs to strip DRM from Kindle books. Last edited by HarryT; 02-01-2012 at 03:30 AM. |
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![]() That's what I'm interested in exploring. Does removing DRM count as format conversion? If it does, then it's illegal, if it doesn't, then it isn't. I'd have thought there's a reasonably strong case for saying that it is format conversion. Quote:
I'd be very surprised if any store that issues DRM'd books doesn't make it a violation of the T&Cs to strip it. |
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No. If you remove DRM from a Mobi file, it's still a Mobi file; if you remove DRM from an ePub file, it's still an ePub file. You've modified the file, but you haven't changed its format. It's not illegal to modify data that you've legally bought.
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Assuming that eBooks would be considered software, it is illegal to provide a means of circumventing DRM, or to provide information to assist in that.
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In the Netherlands, it's quite strange.
The law explicitly states that I may make as many copies for my personal use as I want. We even pay taxes for that, collected by "Stichting Thuiskopie". (It's collected by adding a markup/tax to many media, such as cd's, dvd's, and others.) It also states that converting the format of the data is allowed, as it is seen as a copy; as long as one uses it for personal use only. The law also states that I may not remove or break any copy protections. So... ehhh.... To be able to exercise the right I get with one law, I need to break another. As far as I know, none of these laws officially has a higher priority than the other. Either way, nobody seems to care about the second law. I've never seen it enforced. As long as you don't spread any copyrighted material, nobody will make an issue if you remove the drm. And, if I don't tell anyone, who would know? There are no razzia's or random house searches (yet). Therefore, I happilyb strip the drm from anything I buy, but I never spread copyrighted stuff. Last edited by Katsunami; 02-01-2012 at 08:44 AM. |
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My understanding is that EU directives aren't enforceable in member countries until and unless the member country passes legislation to enact the directive. Or have I got that wrong? |
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We also have this, which would fit ebooks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyrig...nical_measures "The right is infringed by the person who knowingly removes electronic copyright management information which is associated with a copy of a copyright work, or appears in connection with the communication to the public of a copyright work" |
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That's absolutely right. Each member state needs to pass legislation to enforce EU directives in national law.
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To be honest with you, I'm not particularly bothered whether or not it's legal. I spend a great deal of money on eBooks, and I remove DRM for the sole purpose of ensuring that I'll continue to be able to read those books in the future. I don't give copies to anyone else, and hence I don't consider what I do to be "wrong". My belief is that DRM removal is not illegal in the UK, but even if it was, it wouldn't prevent me from doing what I do. Nobody's going to prosecute someone for format-shifting books which they've legally bought.
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I can't believe you said that, Harry. Since I know you know better. ("but even if it were")
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I would interpret all that legal mumbo-jumbo as saying that personal use is permitted.
"imports otherwise than for his private and domestic use... "has in his possession for commercial purposes..." "to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the copyright owner..." |
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European Directive 2001/29/EC, and the amendments to the Copyright Act (EU Regulation 2003/2498 EC on Copyright and Related Rights Regulations and EU Regulation 2003/2426 EC on Privacy and Electronic Communications) These make DRM infringement identical to copyright infringement. This is made clear in section 17.2 of the British Academy's guidelines on copyright: http://www.britac.ac.uk/policy/copyr...delines.cfm#17 Whether it's illegal for private use is a very grey area - recording onto tape was illegal, but I doubt it stopped many people making backups of their very expensive cassettes (or CDs, DVDs or MP3s). Last edited by LuvReadin; 02-01-2012 at 02:18 PM. |
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