Annoyance - missing book page numbers.

rusmo · 11-18-2011, 10:18 AM

I'm reading a book, and the page numbers show up on the Kindle App for my iPhone, but not on my brand-spanking new Fire. In fact, a quick sampling of 6 books on my Fire shows none of them have page numbers.

Does the Fire not support page numbers? Or is it just an unlucky sampling of books on my part?

astrodad · 11-18-2011, 10:27 AM

According to this page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...29450#location

Quote:

"Page Numbers
Kindle Fire does not currently support page numbers."

BUMMER.

jswinden · 11-18-2011, 10:31 AM

One of a few things the Fire seems to not support that are frustrating. I hope they update the reading app to include these things soon.

No X-ray feature
No page numbers
No archiving/syncing with Personal Documents
No chapter indicators on the progress bar

weatherman · 11-18-2011, 10:45 AM

For a "flagship device" Amazon sure does seem to have cut a few corners with the Fire's OS and apps. I'm sure it'll get fixed in the long run, but how long? what do they have, like three coders in a broom closet over there?

jswinden · 11-18-2011, 11:07 AM

I'm beginning to wonder if they pulled a Sony as far as design goes. Sony has long been notorious for separating their design teams by divisions so that they rarely, if ever, communicate with each other. This often results in a lack of common features across platforms and devices and occasionally a reinventing of the wheel.

It is almost like the Fire FW designers were not in the same building or even the same town as the Kindle E Ink FW designers. And the Touch FW designers must have been located on the Moon!

Amazon should take a long look at the Kindle for iPad app and say this is really good, so let's implement as much of this into the other apps and readers as possible. And the flagship Fire should have the same major, popular features as the Kindle E Inks.

It might be too that Amazon rushed too much to beat the competition. Kobo and B&N both released their similar devices within a few weeks of the Fire. Perhaps a lot of planned features wound up on the cutting room floor for the sake of meeting their rushed release date. I hope these get put into future FW.

polbit · 11-18-2011, 01:15 PM

I would not be buying Fire based on what you think Amazon might add to it later, like page numbers, collections, etc. Many of us were burned when Kindle DXG came out and everybody assumed it would get the upgrades like Kindle 3. Yeah, we're still waiting.

I just got my Fire yesterday, and I'm not taking any chances. If I don't see a better way to manage content than favorites and the stupid carousel within 30 days, it's going back to Amazon. Why is it so hard for Amazon to understand that for people that have a lot of books, there needs to be a way to manage them. In a way, I'm getting penalized by buying from Amazon - the more books I buy, the more cluttered interface becomes.

/rant

Polbit

SCION · 11-18-2011, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polbit

I would not be buying Fire based on what you think Amazon might add to it later, like page numbers, collections, etc...

Yep, great advice. This applies to any product.

One should return it, and buy it another time.

jswinden · 11-18-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polbit

I would not be buying Fire based on what you think Amazon might add to it later, like page numbers, collections, etc. Many of us were burned when Kindle DXG came out and everybody assumed it would get the upgrades like Kindle 3. Yeah, we're still waiting.

I just got my Fire yesterday, and I'm not taking any chances. If I don't see a better way to manage content than favorites and the stupid carousel within 30 days, it's going back to Amazon. Why is it so hard for Amazon to understand that for people that have a lot of books, there needs to be a way to manage them. In a way, I'm getting penalized by buying from Amazon - the more books I buy, the more cluttered interface becomes.

/rant

Polbit

I bought a DXG but returned it within 3 weeks. I'm glad I did as the K3 which came out a few weeks later was much more advanced. The whole DX model line never caught on with schools and colleges so Amazon quickly abandoned any idea of upgrades. I'm really surprised that they continue to sell them.

weatherman · 11-18-2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polbit

I would not be buying Fire based on what you think Amazon might add to it later

Very good advice that I myself have offered for others, and yet sometimes forget myself. I usually say one should never buy the device based on what you hope it will do in the future, only what it can do now. That goes for everything from software fixes to app catalogs - one simply can't rely on those things. And if bugs or features get added, or thousands of great new apps become available, then it's just gravy.

monkeyluis · 11-18-2011, 01:27 PM

Yeah I noticed too. Also the progress bar! It's missing on the Kindle Touch as well. WTH!!!

monkeyluis · 11-18-2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weatherman

Very good advice that I myself have offered for others, and yet sometimes forget myself. I usually say one never buy the device based on what you hope it will do in the future, only what it can do now. That goes for everything from software fixes to app catalogs - one simply can't rely on those things. And if bugs or features get added, or thousands of great new apps become available, then it's just gravy.

I agree. I've always thought it was silly to wait. You keep waiting, then you'll never buy anything.

polbit · 11-18-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswinden

I bought a DXG but returned it within 3 weeks. I'm glad I did as the K3 which came out a few weeks later was much more advanced. The whole DX model line never caught on with schools and colleges so Amazon quickly abandoned any idea of upgrades. I'm really surprised that they continue to sell them.

They are probably just selling out the remaining stock, since I'm sure they made enough to support their school strategy that never took off...

Skydog · 11-18-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswinden

One of a few things the Fire seems to not support that are frustrating. I hope they update the reading app to include these things soon.

No X-ray feature
No page numbers
No archiving/syncing with Personal Documents
No chapter indicators on the progress bar

And worse, the second and fourth features you list above are absent on my new Kindle Touch including no progress bar!

SCION · 11-18-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyluis

... You keep waiting, then you'll never buy anything.

Or you'll be someone (like me) who buys, sells, buys, sells, ....

astrodad · 11-18-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswinden

No archiving/syncing with Personal Documents

What does that mean? You're saying whispersync doesn't work with Documents? Where did you read that?

11-18-2011, 10:18 AM	#1
rusmo Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 2i	Annoyance - missing book page numbers. I'm reading a book, and the page numbers show up on the Kindle App for my iPhone, but not on my brand-spanking new Fire. In fact, a quick sampling of 6 books on my Fire shows none of them have page numbers. Does the Fire not support page numbers? Or is it just an unlucky sampling of books on my part?

11-18-2011, 10:31 AM	#3
jswinden Nameless Being	One of a few things the Fire seems to not support that are frustrating. I hope they update the reading app to include these things soon. No X-ray feature No page numbers No archiving/syncing with Personal Documents No chapter indicators on the progress bar Last edited by jswinden; 11-18-2011 at 10:35 AM.

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jswinden Nameless Being	I'm beginning to wonder if they pulled a Sony as far as design goes. Sony has long been notorious for separating their design teams by divisions so that they rarely, if ever, communicate with each other. This often results in a lack of common features across platforms and devices and occasionally a reinventing of the wheel. It is almost like the Fire FW designers were not in the same building or even the same town as the Kindle E Ink FW designers. And the Touch FW designers must have been located on the Moon! Amazon should take a long look at the Kindle for iPad app and say this is really good, so let's implement as much of this into the other apps and readers as possible. And the flagship Fire should have the same major, popular features as the Kindle E Inks. It might be too that Amazon rushed too much to beat the competition. Kobo and B&N both released their similar devices within a few weeks of the Fire. Perhaps a lot of planned features wound up on the cutting room floor for the sake of meeting their rushed release date. I hope these get put into future FW.

11-18-2011, 01:15 PM	#6
polbit Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 29488 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Keller, TX Device: Kindle 4, Kindle HDX 8.9, Yoga 2 Pro	I would not be buying Fire based on what you think Amazon might add to it later, like page numbers, collections, etc. Many of us were burned when Kindle DXG came out and everybody assumed it would get the upgrades like Kindle 3. Yeah, we're still waiting. I just got my Fire yesterday, and I'm not taking any chances. If I don't see a better way to manage content than favorites and the stupid carousel within 30 days, it's going back to Amazon. Why is it so hard for Amazon to understand that for people that have a lot of books, there needs to be a way to manage them. In a way, I'm getting penalized by buying from Amazon - the more books I buy, the more cluttered interface becomes. /rant Polbit

11-18-2011, 01:27 PM	#10
monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	Yeah I noticed too. Also the progress bar! It's missing on the Kindle Touch as well. WTH!!!

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