Pocket eDGe time is innacurate

bouldergramp · 11-06-2011, 11:28 AM

I connect to the internet only occasionally via high speed WiFi at my local library. With Automatic checked in Settings/date & Time, the time remains innacurate. I set the time using Set date with no trouble but over a period of several weeks it slowly drifts off by several minutes.

It is not really a problem but it seems odd.

ivanjt · 11-06-2011, 01:07 PM

For a reason only known to Entourage they coupled the time update to their servers and now because the servers a shut we no longer time sync from them.

The time drift is because the timing circuit in the devices isn't that well regulated. It changes with temperature, both internal and external which points to the timing crystal having a very poor specification.

I get a variation of about 4 minutes a week so I manually set the time every monday.

bouldergramp · 11-06-2011, 02:10 PM

That Answers That Question

tarvoke · 11-06-2011, 03:52 PM

yeah that was one of the first things I tried to look for when I got mine - doesn't even seem like they're using ntp, and I could not find anything relevant in the sqlite dbs either. blah.

tarvoke · 11-06-2011, 04:03 PM

altho instead of installing ntp oneself, this seems worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688177

(requires root, natch)

installed from market and seems to work just fine. does what it says on the tin.

looks like it is just a standard ntpdate/ntpclient rather than a proper ntpd, so it will jerk the clock around instead of gracefully drifting it, but still.

also in the settings there is some sort of "rootless" mode but I was not able to test it.

good enough.

borisb · 11-06-2011, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanjt

For a reason only known to Entourage they coupled the time update to their servers and now because the servers a shut we no longer time sync from them.

Actually, I reported this bug to enTourage very early on (probably around March/April 2010) and was told that launching the Registration Wizard will cause the time to be updated (and then you cancel the Registration Wizard).

The lack of true NTP sync'ing apparently was never implemented, but launching the Registration app does still successfully update the time...

Filark · 11-07-2011, 04:12 AM

I've been wondering about this! Thanks all of you for the info, and bouldergramp for the question.

I just tried Boris's trick and it worked!! Not that I minded having my eDGe clocks a little fast -- kept me on my toes!

11-06-2011, 11:28 AM	#1
bouldergramp Member Posts: 14 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: enTourage Pocket eDGe Dualbook	Pocket eDGe time is innacurate I connect to the internet only occasionally via high speed WiFi at my local library. With Automatic checked in Settings/date & Time, the time remains innacurate. I set the time using Set date with no trouble but over a period of several weeks it slowly drifts off by several minutes. It is not really a problem but it seems odd.

11-06-2011, 02:10 PM	#3
bouldergramp Member Posts: 14 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: enTourage Pocket eDGe Dualbook	Thanks for the reply That Answers That Question

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11-06-2011, 01:07 PM	#2
ivanjt Guru Posts: 858 Karma: 1027478 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South of France Device: kindle dx; eDGe	For a reason only known to Entourage they coupled the time update to their servers and now because the servers a shut we no longer time sync from them. The time drift is because the timing circuit in the devices isn't that well regulated. It changes with temperature, both internal and external which points to the timing crystal having a very poor specification. I get a variation of about 4 minutes a week so I manually set the time every monday.

11-06-2011, 03:52 PM	#4
tarvoke Dog Dentist Posts: 108 Karma: 18 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: PE, GT540, VM670, GOGHVMU, Qualcomm 1600	yeah that was one of the first things I tried to look for when I got mine - doesn't even seem like they're using ntp, and I could not find anything relevant in the sqlite dbs either. blah.

11-06-2011, 04:03 PM	#5
tarvoke Dog Dentist Posts: 108 Karma: 18 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: PE, GT540, VM670, GOGHVMU, Qualcomm 1600	altho instead of installing ntp oneself, this seems worth a try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688177 (requires root, natch) installed from market and seems to work just fine. does what it says on the tin. looks like it is just a standard ntpdate/ntpclient rather than a proper ntpd, so it will jerk the clock around instead of gracefully drifting it, but still. also in the settings there is some sort of "rootless" mode but I was not able to test it. good enough.

11-07-2011, 04:12 AM	#7
Filark Armed with a smile :) Posts: 1,421 Karma: 2463560 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California, USA Device: enTourage eDGe & Pocket eDGe, Samsung Galaxy Note II	I've been wondering about this! Thanks all of you for the info, and bouldergramp for the question. I just tried Boris's trick and it worked!! Not that I minded having my eDGe clocks a little fast -- kept me on my toes!

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