Entering the Kobo app password was VERY frustrating

TonyToews · 10-29-2011, 02:26 PM

Note to Kobo staff.

A very nice feature is the optional ability to view your password when logging into a WiFi network. My WiFi password is a pass phrase and is about 20 characters long so that's very nice.

BUT the Kobo app password screen displayed only the last character for a moment. Almost all my passwords are 20 characters long, randomly generated with upper and lower case characters and digits, and stored in the open source KeePass utility. (I have no idea what my banking, Facebook, this website or other websites passwords are because they're all stored in KeePass and entered at the webpage login with a few keystrokes.)

So now I had to labouriously enter each character and watch it for a second to verify. I could not wait until the end and then verify the entire string. I had to re-enter the Kobo desktop app password three times before I got it right.

So please give us the ability to view the entire password as we re-enter it.

(Hmm, I have to see what the experience is like when entering the password at a browser screen. <shudder>)

kaikara · 10-29-2011, 02:32 PM

If you go into the settings you can set the passwords to always show. This won't help when you are doing the initial setup but will help after that.

The Terminator · 10-29-2011, 02:53 PM

That isn't really Kobo's fault, that is the standard for Android.

JD Gumby · 10-29-2011, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyToews

Note to Kobo staff.

A very nice feature is the optional ability to view your password when logging into a WiFi network. My WiFi password is a pass phrase and is about 20 characters long so that's very nice.

BUT the Kobo app password screen displayed only the last character for a moment. Almost all my passwords are 20 characters long, randomly generated with upper and lower case characters and digits, and stored in the open source KeePass utility.

Eww. You really should fix that. http://xkcd.com/936/ might play it for humor, but it *is* pretty much true...

TonyToews · 10-29-2011, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD Gumby

Eww. You really should fix that. http://xkcd.com/936/ might play it for humor, but it *is* pretty much true...

I should fix what? Random passwords? No, they're great except in this situation where my password manager doesn't have software that runs on the secondary device.

With a different random password at every website there is no way that a hacker can use one password of mine to access data at any other website.

3d0g · 10-30-2011, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyToews

I should fix what? Random passwords? No, they're great except in this situation where my password manager doesn't have software that runs on the secondary device.

With a different random password at every website there is no way that a hacker can use one password of mine to access data at any other website.

The tl;dr point of the xkcd comic is, length is more important than randomness. Using a simple, easy to remember phrase and padding it out to 20 characters is just as effective and not all the brain ache of randomly generated ones.

https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm

TonyToews · 10-30-2011, 06:54 PM

So you're suggesting I use a common password for all/many websites? No. Not a chance.

Even if I was to create a standard append initials based on the website and on the common pass phrase that would be quite impractical too because I couldn't remember them. And they would likely be too easy to crack.

That is
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TonyToews · 10-30-2011, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaikara

If you go into the settings you can set the passwords to always show. This won't help when you are doing the initial setup but will help after that.

I did (was didn't) but it didn't make a difference.

kaikara · 10-30-2011, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyToews

I didn't but it didn't make a difference.

I left mine stock so I am not sure if it is working or not. I know that it worked on my Android phone that was running 2.3.3. Perhaps Kobo has disabled it or it might be a bug in the version they are running.

10-29-2011, 02:26 PM	#1
TonyToews Evangelist Posts: 490 Karma: 351398 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kobo Vox and Glo	Entering the Kobo app password was VERY frustrating Note to Kobo staff. A very nice feature is the optional ability to view your password when logging into a WiFi network. My WiFi password is a pass phrase and is about 20 characters long so that's very nice. BUT the Kobo app password screen displayed only the last character for a moment. Almost all my passwords are 20 characters long, randomly generated with upper and lower case characters and digits, and stored in the open source KeePass utility. (I have no idea what my banking, Facebook, this website or other websites passwords are because they're all stored in KeePass and entered at the webpage login with a few keystrokes.) So now I had to labouriously enter each character and watch it for a second to verify. I could not wait until the end and then verify the entire string. I had to re-enter the Kobo desktop app password three times before I got it right. So please give us the ability to view the entire password as we re-enter it. (Hmm, I have to see what the experience is like when entering the password at a browser screen. <shudder>)

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10-29-2011, 02:32 PM	#2
kaikara Zealot Posts: 110 Karma: 347050 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Glo, Kobo Touch, Kobo Vox	If you go into the settings you can set the passwords to always show. This won't help when you are doing the initial setup but will help after that.

10-29-2011, 02:53 PM	#3
The Terminator Retired Posts: 2,552 Karma: 37638420 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Optimus One (2.3), Nexus 7 (4.2)	That isn't really Kobo's fault, that is the standard for Android.

10-30-2011, 06:54 PM	#7
TonyToews Evangelist Posts: 490 Karma: 351398 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kobo Vox and Glo	So you're suggesting I use a common password for all/many websites? No. Not a chance. Even if I was to create a standard append initials based on the website and on the common pass phrase that would be quite impractical too because I couldn't remember them. And they would likely be too easy to crack. That is the sun is shining fb for Facebook and the sun is shining mr for Mobileread?

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