Cheaper device with large display (8inch or lager)

v1doc · 10-23-2007, 05:21 AM

Hello to everyone, this is my first post, I’m searching for a device with a large display (8” or lager) with e-ink technology.

The only device with this display that I know is the iRex iLiad, but it’s too expansive for me

Do you have some suggestions?

Many Thanks
v1doc

tribble · 10-23-2007, 05:41 AM

none at the moment. The iLiad is the only device with an 8inch eink display on the market as of now. Jinke is planning on releasing larger eink display devices, but they are not available yet.

JSWolf · 10-23-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tribble

none at the moment. The iLiad is the only device with an 8inch eink display on the market as of now. Jinke is planning on releasing larger eink display devices, but they are not available yet.

The main problem with Jinke as I see it now is that they don't have any DRM formats that are popular enough so if you wanted to purchase that latest besseller from some ebook shop to read on a V3, you would be unable to unless you broke the DRM and converted it.

HarryT · 10-23-2007, 09:38 AM

The reason the iLiad is expensive is precisely BECAUSE it has a large screen. The majority of the cost of these machines (probably over 80%) is the screen.

wallcraft · 10-23-2007, 09:47 AM

Several companies will have devices with 8" (and 10") E-Ink screens next year. They will presumably be cheaper than the current iLiad and more expensive than devices with 6" screens. This is a wide price range ($300-$700), and I don't know where the "cheapest" 8" device will end up. I'm sure there will be some device at about $700 (10" screen, wifi, touch screen), since iRex has demonstrated that some of us are crazy enough to pay this much.

v1doc · 10-23-2007, 11:17 AM

Thank you to everyone for the quick answers, so I think that I should wait the new cheaper device.

DaleDe · 10-23-2007, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1doc

Hello to everyone, this is my first post, I’m searching for a device with a large display (8” or lager) with e-ink technology.

The only device with this display that I know is the iRex iLiad, but it’s too expansive for me

Do you have some suggestions?

Many Thanks
v1doc

If you can squeeze your requirement down to 7.5" then there are choices. For example check OLPC http://laptop.org/ however it is not eink. You can't talk about e-ink and cheap in the same sentence yet. (If you click on the link then click hardware and then specs for some pictures.

Dale

v1doc · 10-24-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

If you can squeeze your requirement down to 7.5" then there are choices. For example check OLPC http://laptop.org/ however it is not eink. You can't talk about e-ink and cheap in the same sentence yet. (If you click on the link then click hardware and then specs for some pictures.

Dale

Ok, but I think that OLPC monitor doesn’t use e-ink technology, it should use a normal LCD.

Regards
Mrco

HarryT · 10-24-2007, 05:53 AM

It is an LCD display, but not a "normal" one. It operates in two modes - as a conventional, backlit colour display OR in a direct-sunlight-readable, non-backlit, very low-power greyscale mode. This later would be excellent for a bookreader.

The main problems with the OLPC are that:

1. Most people can't buy them.
2. I don't know what, if any, book reading software exists for them.

DaleDe · 10-24-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It is an LCD display, but not a "normal" one. It operates in two modes - as a conventional, backlit colour display OR in a direct-sunlight-readable, non-backlit, very low-power greyscale mode. This later would be excellent for a bookreader.

The main problems with the OLPC are that:

1. Most people can't buy them.
2. I don't know what, if any, book reading software exists for them.

Yea, it defines a new standard for LCD, certainly is not normal and it provides some of the power advantages of E-ink. Unfortunately the minute you turn the backlight on you lose the high resolution display. Hight resolution is even better than e-ink devices today hitting the 200 dpi making it more suitable for PDF documents and rivals the 8" device which is why I recommended it.

There is a reader for PDF and scanned images that ships with it, evince. It is not clear how many of the possible formats for evince are going to be available. Since it is running linux I think that, once, people have them it will not take long for more readers to show up. One of the major thrusts of the project is to provide ebooks and edocument capability.

For a short time anyone can buy them. You pay $400 and get a unit plus a
receipt for a $200 deduction that will be used to send a second unit to a child in a 3rd world country. Availability is November.

Dale

HarryT · 10-24-2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

For a short time anyone can buy them. You pay $400 and get a unit plus a
receipt for a $200 deduction that will be used to send a second unit to a child in a 3rd world country. Availability is November.

Dale

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that only people in the US could do that? That was the reason for my comment about most people being unable to.

It looks like a very exciting product; I'm sure there'll be all sorts of "offshoots" from it, and hopefully once it's in full-scale production it will become more widely available.

DaleDe · 10-24-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that only people in the US could do that? That was the reason for my comment about most people being unable to.

It looks like a very exciting product; I'm sure there'll be all sorts of "offshoots" from it, and hopefully once it's in full-scale production it will become more widely available.

It doesn't say US but it does say North America. I suspect this is only to control the shipping costs but I would suggest that you contact them and see if there is a way to increase the area for this effort. The guy behind this effort is up against some competition with Intel and others who think this is a way to make money so it is not clear he can prevail but I think he needs support from the entire world to make this a reality. Check this site for more details on the offer. http://www.laptopgiving.org/

10-23-2007, 05:21 AM	#1
v1doc Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Imate K-JAM	Cheaper device with large display (8inch or lager) Hello to everyone, this is my first post, I’m searching for a device with a large display (8” or lager) with e-ink technology. The only device with this display that I know is the iRex iLiad, but it’s too expansive for me Do you have some suggestions? Many Thanks v1doc

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tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	none at the moment. The iLiad is the only device with an 8inch eink display on the market as of now. Jinke is planning on releasing larger eink display devices, but they are not available yet.

10-23-2007, 09:38 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The reason the iLiad is expensive is precisely BECAUSE it has a large screen. The majority of the cost of these machines (probably over 80%) is the screen.

10-23-2007, 09:47 AM	#5
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	Several companies will have devices with 8" (and 10") E-Ink screens next year. They will presumably be cheaper than the current iLiad and more expensive than devices with 6" screens. This is a wide price range ($300-$700), and I don't know where the "cheapest" 8" device will end up. I'm sure there will be some device at about $700 (10" screen, wifi, touch screen), since iRex has demonstrated that some of us are crazy enough to pay this much.

10-23-2007, 11:17 AM	#6
v1doc Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Imate K-JAM	Thank you to everyone for the quick answers, so I think that I should wait the new cheaper device.

10-24-2007, 05:53 AM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It is an LCD display, but not a "normal" one. It operates in two modes - as a conventional, backlit colour display OR in a direct-sunlight-readable, non-backlit, very low-power greyscale mode. This later would be excellent for a bookreader. The main problems with the OLPC are that: 1. Most people can't buy them. 2. I don't know what, if any, book reading software exists for them.

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