My Issues with Onyx M90

Kirys · 07-07-2011, 08:29 AM

Hi all I've just got my Boox M90, I have to admit that it is near to my idea of E-Book reader, but has some issues that make it far from perfect.
The main two for me are:

The pen has a blind spot near to the area where the speaker is, I think that the magnet of the speaker absorb all the emission of the wacom sensors.
No g sensor this page http://www.onyx-international.com/en...id=175&cid=172 says that it should autorotate (like my phone) but this feature is missing or disabled.

Are these general HW issues of a fault of my item.
Cya

pidgeon92 · 07-07-2011, 12:36 PM

I haven't noticed a blind spot per se, but I don't think the screen responds all that well to the stylus at all.

I'm thinking the gravitational sensor either got left out, or isn't activated. There's nothing in the settings, and there is nothing in the user manual.

Dulin's Books · 07-07-2011, 01:34 PM

I havent found the g sensor in the setting either. i am asking about it. i dont have a blind spot near the speaker but i believe they could improve the response a bit.

t3hSucK · 07-18-2011, 04:31 AM

Hi,
I can definitely confirm now that it is the speaker's magnetic field that's interfering and causing a blind spot on my device.

I've run a small iron keyring attached to a string (lol...) across the back of the device, and found a pretty strong magnetic field. Strong being, strong enough to actually get the keyring to stick to the white button at the back. I mean, ok, there *should* be some kind of magnetic shielding on the other side of the speaker, or I'd hope so anyway... *edit* Nope - or at least not effective : I've run the keyring across the screen - there's a magnetic field there too centered around the dead zone. The ring doesn't actually stick, but swinging the ring across the field actually distorts its movement, so there's a slight field there too. *edit*

Now, I don't know if this is a normal thing, but could anyone that doesn't have this problem confirm that their speaker is not like this? *edit* well, ok - the speaker probably would be like that since it contains a magnet..., but could anyone please check the screen for this? *edit*

I'm not sure if it has to do with actually trying to use the speaker, but one of the first things that I've tried with the device when I got it was to play an mp3 through the speaker, and cranking the volume to max to test how strong the speaker was... ;/. Anyway, not using the said speaker again. Hopefully the magnetic field will weaken over time, but I wouldn't suggest to anyone to actually try the same thing...

I guess I'll read up on degaussing and magnetic shielding

...

t3hSucK · 07-18-2011, 04:47 AM

...might as well throw in 'how speakers work' in there as well bc. I'm obviously a noob.

Kirys · 07-22-2011, 06:09 AM

I made a video that shows the blind spot
http://goo.gl/1SUJ9

Onyx Europe · 07-26-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirys

No g sensor this page http://www.onyx-international.com/en...id=175&cid=172 says that it should autorotate (like my phone) but this feature is missing or disabled.

The engineer left out the G-sensor, so it can't autorotate.

pidgeon92 · 07-26-2011, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onyx Europe

The engineer left out the G-sensor, so it can't autorotate.

The engineer needs to be slapped.

I see the website finally dropped that claim as well.

Onyx Europe · 07-27-2011, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidgeon92

The engineer needs to be slapped.

I see the website finally dropped that claim as well.

As the distributor in Europe we also thought a G-sensor was included. So that was a real disappointment.

initx · 07-29-2011, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirys

The pen has a blind spot near to the area where the speaker is, I think that the magnet of the speaker absorb all the emission of the wacom sensors

Hi. Is this blind spot a general issue (it affects all the devices) or just some of them? I am thinking about buying an M90 but w/o any blind spots...

ssdb · 07-29-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by initx

Hi. Is this blind spot a general issue (it affects all the devices) or just some of them? I am thinking about buying an M90 but w/o any blind spots...

I just received my M90 today (it was in the second batch from Onyx Europe).

I did some Scribbles and could not see any problem with it so maybe they've fixed it.

initx · 07-29-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssdb

I just received my M90 today (it was in the second batch from Onyx Europe).

I did some Scribbles and could not see any problem with it so maybe they've fixed it.

Great! Would you please share your experiences after playing with the device! How do you feel about navigation? Is it fast enough?

I am just about to get mine, just worrying because of the dead spot issue. But its good to hear that they may have fixed it.

ssdb · 07-29-2011, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by initx

Great! Would you please share your experiences after playing with the device! How do you feel about navigation? Is it fast enough?

I am just about to get mine, just worrying because of the dead spot issue. But its good to hear that they may have fixed it.

It seems pretty quick. No problems with opening or navigating PDFs.

I've opened a few PDFs that I've printed from Guttenberg novels and they've opened quickly and the page turns are quick as well. A few technical PDFs have also worked very well. I haven't noticed a problem with navigation - jumping to a page halfway through a PDF seems OK. I'll have to try with some very big PDFs later on, at the moment I'm just playing with it.

The one thing I'd say is remember that the little IR also works as a button. It took me 5 minutes before I realised how to set the clock!

The screen is very good as well - it's my first E ink device and it's impressive.

initx · 07-29-2011, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssdb

It seems pretty quick. No problems with opening or navigating PDFs.

Sounds exiting.

Would you please test again the wacom pen on the whole screen, so that to confirm that this effect does not exists any more at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acX_C...tailpage#t=23s

If it works okay, I will buy mine this week. This should be my second e-ink device.

ssdb · 07-29-2011, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by initx

Sounds exiting.

Would you please test again the wacom pen on the whole screen, so that to confirm that this effect does not exists any more at all?

If it works okay, I will buy mine this week. This should be my second e-ink device.

It seems ok to me. Hopefully this will work...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/60302923.jpg/

some modern art for you.

07-07-2011, 08:29 AM	#1
Kirys Zealot Posts: 122 Karma: 86 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy Device: Boox M90	My Issues with Onyx M90 Hi all I've just got my Boox M90, I have to admit that it is near to my idea of E-Book reader, but has some issues that make it far from perfect. The main two for me are: The pen has a blind spot near to the area where the speaker is, I think that the magnet of the speaker absorb all the emission of the wacom sensors. No g sensor this page http://www.onyx-international.com/en...id=175&cid=172 says that it should autorotate (like my phone) but this feature is missing or disabled. Are these general HW issues of a fault of my item. Cya

07-07-2011, 01:34 PM	#3
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	I havent found the g sensor in the setting either. i am asking about it. i dont have a blind spot near the speaker but i believe they could improve the response a bit. Last edited by Dulin's Books; 07-07-2011 at 01:53 PM.

07-18-2011, 04:31 AM	#4
t3hSucK Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: onyx boox m90	Hi, I can definitely confirm now that it is the speaker's magnetic field that's interfering and causing a blind spot on my device. I've run a small iron keyring attached to a string (lol...) across the back of the device, and found a pretty strong magnetic field. Strong being, strong enough to actually get the keyring to stick to the white button at the back. I mean, ok, there should be some kind of magnetic shielding on the other side of the speaker, or I'd hope so anyway... edit Nope - or at least not effective : I've run the keyring across the screen - there's a magnetic field there too centered around the dead zone. The ring doesn't actually stick, but swinging the ring across the field actually distorts its movement, so there's a slight field there too. edit Now, I don't know if this is a normal thing, but could anyone that doesn't have this problem confirm that their speaker is not like this? edit well, ok - the speaker probably would be like that since it contains a magnet..., but could anyone please check the screen for this? edit I'm not sure if it has to do with actually trying to use the speaker, but one of the first things that I've tried with the device when I got it was to play an mp3 through the speaker, and cranking the volume to max to test how strong the speaker was... ;/. Anyway, not using the said speaker again. Hopefully the magnetic field will weaken over time, but I wouldn't suggest to anyone to actually try the same thing... I guess I'll read up on degaussing and magnetic shielding ... Last edited by t3hSucK; 07-18-2011 at 05:04 AM.

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pidgeon92 Wizard Posts: 3,144 Karma: 8426142 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Device: Kindle PW2, Kindle Voyage, Kindle DXG, Boox M90, Kobo Aura HD	I haven't noticed a blind spot per se, but I don't think the screen responds all that well to the stylus at all. I'm thinking the gravitational sensor either got left out, or isn't activated. There's nothing in the settings, and there is nothing in the user manual.

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