format is wrong

colin2011 · 06-09-2011, 02:16 PM

Hi

When I convert a PDb file to a mobi file I get wrong formatting as I get line space instead of continuation of text..

Example:

Her name was Summer. It was a name that conjured visions of hot petaled flowers, sudden storms and

long, restless nights. It also brought images of sun-warmed meadows and naps in the shade. It suited her.

As she stood, hands poised, body tensed, eyes alert, there wasn't a sound in the room. No one,

Any idea what I am doing wrong.

Thanks

Colin

itimpi · 06-09-2011, 02:37 PM

Probably something in the input file.

Try reconverting with the Heuristics processing enabled to see if that improves things.

colin2011 · 06-10-2011, 03:21 AM

Update

When I view this in word it has arrow pointing to the left (not sure what the correct term for it is) which causes the extra blank lines.

I will give your suggestion a try.

Thanks

Colin

user_none · 06-10-2011, 06:08 AM

Most likely your PDB file is a PalmDOC PDB. In that case it's just a TXT file inside of the PDB container. TXT tries to auto detect the formatting. Sometimes it gets it wrong and the formatting comes out wrong in a conversion. Unfortunately, PDB input does not allow you to specify the formatting (TXT does). I can be sure this is happening if you post the conversion log. If this is the case you can try a tool like pdbshread and extract the TXT from the PDB then you will have more options and control over the conversion.

colin2011 · 06-10-2011, 07:14 AM

Update

What I am getting is a manual line break (that is what word calls it).

I tried using Heuristics processing and it gave me the same layout but instead of manual line break it had paragraph marks instead.

Can you tell me where I find the conversion log please.

Thanks

Colin

user_none · 06-10-2011, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin2011

Can you tell me where I find the conversion log please.

Convert the book. Click jobs at the bottom right of the window. Select the conversion job. Click show details at the bottom of the window. Copy and paste here. Oh and when you page it here please wrap it in the spoiler tag. [ spoiler ] ... [ /spoiler ] <- without the spaces.

E.G.

Spoiler:

colin2011 · 06-10-2011, 11:25 AM

Result using Heuristics processing.

Thanks

Colin

Spoiler:

JSWolf · 06-10-2011, 11:26 AM

Where did this PDB file comes from?

colin2011 · 06-10-2011, 11:40 AM

A friend that got it in a package from ebay.

JSWolf · 06-10-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin2011

A friend that got it in a package from ebay.

In plain English...

Not a legal copy and not a well made copy. One of those downloaded from the net dodgy copies. I kind of figured that as it's got the classic symptoms.

Most eBooks sold via eBay are illegally sold.

colin2011 · 06-10-2011, 12:06 PM

If that is the case how come Ebay allow it?

Thought they were hot in shutting down dodgy stuff?

theducks · 06-10-2011, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin2011

If that is the case how come Ebay allow it?

Thought they were hot in shutting down dodgy stuff?

Was it reported? EBAY is mostly automated.
Reports get a human eyes attention.

user_none · 06-10-2011, 06:40 PM

From the output of the conversion log I'm 99.999% certain that the formatting issue you're seeing is not due to calibre. It is how the text in your input file is laid out.

ldolse · 06-10-2011, 09:21 PM

The test for line breaks returned false, so heuristics didnt try unwrapping the lines. You can reduce the line unwrap factor to force the line unwrap code to work. Can't guarantee it will help though, depends on how the HTML is defined. The fact that heuristics found the chapter headings is a positive sign.

user_none · 06-10-2011, 09:54 PM

In eReader PDB input each line is treated as a paragraph and wrapped in a <p> tag.

06-09-2011, 02:16 PM	#1
colin2011 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	format is wrong Hi When I convert a PDb file to a mobi file I get wrong formatting as I get line space instead of continuation of text.. Example: Her name was Summer. It was a name that conjured visions of hot petaled flowers, sudden storms and long, restless nights. It also brought images of sun-warmed meadows and naps in the shade. It suited her. As she stood, hands poised, body tensed, eyes alert, there wasn't a sound in the room. No one, Any idea what I am doing wrong. Thanks Colin

06-10-2011, 11:25 AM	#7
colin2011 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	Result using Heuristics processing. Thanks Colin Spoiler: Convert book 1 of 1 (Winter Rose) Resolved conversion options calibre version: 0.8.4 {'asciiize': False, 'author_sort': None, 'authors': None, 'base_font_size': 0.0, 'book_producer': None, 'change_justification': u'original', 'chapter': u"//[((name()='h1' or name()='h2') and re:test(., 'chapter\|book\|section\|part\|prologue\|epilogue\\s+', 'i')) or @class = 'chapter']", 'chapter_mark': u'pagebreak', 'comments': None, 'cover': None, 'debug_pipeline': None, 'dehyphenate': True, 'delete_blank_paragraphs': True, 'disable_font_rescaling': False, 'dont_compress': False, 'enable_heuristics': True, 'extra_css': None, 'fix_indents': True, 'font_size_mapping': None, 'format_scene_breaks': True, 'html_unwrap_factor': 0.4, 'input_encoding': None, 'input_profile': <calibre.customize.profiles.InputProfile object at 0x0407CFF0>, 'insert_blank_line': False, 'insert_metadata': False, 'isbn': None, 'italicize_common_cases': True, 'keep_ligatures': False, 'language': None, 'level1_toc': None, 'level2_toc': None, 'level3_toc': None, 'line_height': 0.0, 'linearize_tables': False, 'margin_bottom': 5.0, 'margin_left': 5.0, 'margin_right': 5.0, 'margin_top': 5.0, 'markup_chapter_headings': True, 'max_toc_links': 50, 'minimum_line_height': 120.0, 'mobi_ignore_margins': False, 'no_chapters_in_toc': False, 'no_inline_navbars': True, 'no_inline_toc': False, 'output_profile': <calibre.customize.profiles.KindleOutput object at 0x04082330>, 'page_breaks_before': u"//[name()='h1' or name()='h2']", 'personal_doc': u'[PDOC]', 'prefer_author_sort': False, 'prefer_metadata_cover': False, 'pretty_print': False, 'pubdate': None, 'publisher': None, 'rating': None, 'read_metadata_from_opf': u'c:\\docume~1\\colin\\locals~1\\temp\\calibre_0.8 .4_tmp_7aijka\\calibre_0.8.4_zar_sn.opf', 'remove_fake_margins': True, 'remove_first_image': False, 'remove_paragraph_spacing': True, 'remove_paragraph_spacing_indent_size': 1.5, 'renumber_headings': True, 'replace_scene_breaks': u'', 'rescale_images': False, 'series': None, 'series_index': None, 'smarten_punctuation': False, 'sr1_replace': None, 'sr1_search': None, 'sr2_replace': None, 'sr2_search': None, 'sr3_replace': None, 'sr3_search': None, 'tags': None, 'timestamp': None, 'title': None, 'title_sort': None, 'toc_filter': None, 'toc_threshold': 6, 'toc_title': None, 'unwrap_lines': True, 'use_auto_toc': False, 'verbose': 2} InputFormatPlugin: PDB Input running on C:\Documents and Settings\Colin\Calibre Library\Nora Roberts\Winter Rose (99)\Winter Rose - Nora Roberts.pdb Detected ebook format as: eReader with identity: PNRdPPrs 132 byte header version found. Extracting text page 1 Extracting text page 2 Extracting text page 3 Extracting text page 4 Extracting text page 5 Extracting text page 6 Extracting text page 7 Extracting text page 8 Extracting text page 9 Extracting text page 10 Extracting text page 11 Extracting text page 12 Extracting text page 13 Extracting text page 14 Extracting text page 15 Extracting text page 16 Extracting text page 17 Extracting text page 18 Writing text to index.html Parsing all content... Parsing index.html ... ******* Heuristic processing HTML ******* There are 59 blank lines. 0.0306652806653 percent blank minimum chapters required are: 4 found 0 pre-existing headings common had 10 hits - 10 chapters with no title, 0 chapters with titles, 0.0 percent. chapter had 10 hits - 10 chapters with no title, 0 chapters with titles, 0.0 percent. Marked 0 headings, Searching for common section headings marked 1 chapters. - CHAPTER 1 marked 2 chapters. - CHAPTER 2 marked 3 chapters. - CHAPTER 3 marked 4 chapters. - CHAPTER 4 marked 5 chapters. - CHAPTER 5 marked 6 chapters. - CHAPTER 6 marked 7 chapters. - CHAPTER 7 marked 8 chapters. - CHAPTER 8 marked 9 chapters. - CHAPTER 9 marked 10 chapters. - CHAPTER 10 Total wordcount is: 26380, Average words per section is: 2638, Marked up 10 chapters Hard line breaks check returned False Median line length is 47, calculated with html format Fixing hyphenated content Forcing index.html into XHTML namespace Reading TOC from NCX... Merging user specified metadata... Detecting structure... Detected chapter: CHAPTER 1 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 2 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 3 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 4 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 5 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 6 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 7 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 8 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 9 Detected chapter: CHAPTER 10 Flattening CSS and remapping font sizes... Source base font size is 12.00000pt Removing fake margins... Parsing stylesheet.css ... Found 10 items of level: div_1 Found 1912 items of level: p_1 div_1 left margin stats: Counter() div_1 right margin stats: Counter() p_1 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 1912}) p_1 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 1912}) Cleaning up manifest... Trimming unused files from manifest... Creating MOBI Output... Applying case-transforming CSS... Parsing manglecase.css ... Rasterizing SVG images... Converting XHTML to Mobipocket markup... Serializing markup content... Compressing markup content... Generating flat CTOC ... CNCX utilization: 1 record, 0% full No entries found in TOC ... Writing unindexed mobi ... Serializing images... MOBI output written to c:\docume~1\colin\locals~1\temp\calibre_0.8.4_tmp_ 7aijka\calibre_0.8.4_fhnn2d.mobi

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06-09-2011, 02:37 PM	#2
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,553 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	Probably something in the input file. Try reconverting with the Heuristics processing enabled to see if that improves things.

06-10-2011, 03:21 AM	#3
colin2011 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	Update When I view this in word it has arrow pointing to the left (not sure what the correct term for it is) which causes the extra blank lines. I will give your suggestion a try. Thanks Colin

06-10-2011, 06:08 AM	#4
user_none Sigil & calibre developer Posts: 2,487 Karma: 1063785 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida, USA Device: Nook STR	Most likely your PDB file is a PalmDOC PDB. In that case it's just a TXT file inside of the PDB container. TXT tries to auto detect the formatting. Sometimes it gets it wrong and the formatting comes out wrong in a conversion. Unfortunately, PDB input does not allow you to specify the formatting (TXT does). I can be sure this is happening if you post the conversion log. If this is the case you can try a tool like pdbshread and extract the TXT from the PDB then you will have more options and control over the conversion.

06-10-2011, 07:14 AM	#5
colin2011 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	Update What I am getting is a manual line break (that is what word calls it). I tried using Heuristics processing and it gave me the same layout but instead of manual line break it had paragraph marks instead. Can you tell me where I find the conversion log please. Thanks Colin

06-10-2011, 11:26 AM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,448 Karma: 145491800 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Where did this PDB file comes from?

06-10-2011, 11:40 AM	#9
colin2011 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	A friend that got it in a package from ebay.

06-10-2011, 12:06 PM	#11
colin2011 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	If that is the case how come Ebay allow it? Thought they were hot in shutting down dodgy stuff?

06-10-2011, 06:40 PM	#13
user_none Sigil & calibre developer Posts: 2,487 Karma: 1063785 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida, USA Device: Nook STR	From the output of the conversion log I'm 99.999% certain that the formatting issue you're seeing is not due to calibre. It is how the text in your input file is laid out.

06-10-2011, 09:21 PM	#14
ldolse Wizard Posts: 1,337 Karma: 123455 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Malaysia Device: PRS-650, iPhone	The test for line breaks returned false, so heuristics didnt try unwrapping the lines. You can reduce the line unwrap factor to force the line unwrap code to work. Can't guarantee it will help though, depends on how the HTML is defined. The fact that heuristics found the chapter headings is a positive sign.

06-10-2011, 09:54 PM	#15
user_none Sigil & calibre developer Posts: 2,487 Karma: 1063785 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida, USA Device: Nook STR	In eReader PDB input each line is treated as a paragraph and wrapped in a <p> tag.

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