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Old 10-21-2010, 10:43 AM   #1
borisb
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enTourage is *not* late to the Android 2.2 party

As people seem to continue to think enTourage is dragging its feet on the Android 2.2 update, let me cite yet another example (and there are many!) of big international companies that aren't any faster at getting Android 2.2 out the door: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/s...tes-all-carri/.

Here, Samsung is indicating they'll release Android 2.2 in November (by the end of the month, no less!) which, ironically, is about the same timeframe for enTourage's release of 2.2 (according to rumours and speculation). Indeed, enTourage may beat Samsung to the punch. So, scoff not, as the little startup that could, named "enTourage", is on par with the big and mighty Samsung (among many others).

While we're all an impatient lot who wants everything yesterday, with due patience we will get Android 2.2 no quicker and no later than many other Android device owners around the world

Last edited by borisb; 10-21-2010 at 05:43 PM.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 12:57 PM   #2
keng2000
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The difference is SAMSUNG has released several firmwares on 2.2 for beta testing such as my Galaxy S has at least 3 versions for problem checking and be ready for the stable one.
And we know nothing on Exxxxx for entourage edge.


WE WANT TO HELP for BETTER FIRMWARE, agree?
 
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:24 PM   #3
Eddy R
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EE may beat T-Mobile's promise of 'November'....
 
Old 10-21-2010, 08:09 PM   #4
D4N14L
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Quiet honestly, I doubt that.

And I never said they were draging their feet. What I did say though is that it is due in Fall and, look at that, its Fall! I never said I want it NOW either. I just said I wanted to have a little status update.

And keng has a point. Samsung is making firmware for multiple platforms. While some could argue the same for enTourage with the Pocket eDGe, I'm pretty sure they have the same (internal) hardware, and therefore the same software. They are still technically developing for 1 platform, whereas Samsung has to develop for multiple radios - something that enTourage doesn't have to worry about - and therefore multiple chipsets. They also have to worry about different drivers for different hardware.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 08:22 PM   #5
borisb
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Good points...
 
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:59 PM   #6
Chubulor
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If I wanted to spend money on underdogs, I'd go to the race track, instead of buying a device with the expectation that its OS would be kept up to date.
 
Old 10-29-2010, 09:40 PM   #7
mphoseeko
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Like it or not enTourage is dragging its feet on the Android 2.2 update. I think its time to stop with all the talking and get to the up date and never mind what any one else is doing, Its what enTourage had said that matters, as I wait to decide what will happen with the company I work for we want to buy a large number of them and yet I see how they are dragging there feet.
 
Old 11-02-2010, 01:53 AM   #8
phylum sinter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mphoseeko View Post
Like it or not enTourage is dragging its feet on the Android 2.2 update. I think its time to stop with all the talking and get to the up date and never mind what any one else is doing, Its what enTourage had said that matters, as I wait to decide what will happen with the company I work for we want to buy a large number of them and yet I see how they are dragging there feet.
They're in the middle of releasing a new product, i'm sure that their resources being spread across two devices now (the eDGe and now the Pocket eDGe) may be in part responsible for this. But honestly, you are being unrealistic if you think that any product as unique as the eDGe line is can be updated so quickly -- there's usually a good 4-6 months of optimization for any software to be fitted to a product's capabilities.
 
Old 11-02-2010, 09:28 AM   #9
borisb
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An enTourage staff member posted in a recent thread that Android 2.2 is a problem on large screen tablets performance-wise, and that they're having problems getting the performance to an acceptable level. It was also indicated that the smaller Pocket eDGe, available this month, is more likely to get 2.2 sooner because of the smaller screen (and hence better performance).
 
Old 11-03-2010, 08:40 PM   #10
Spock
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Quote:
Originally Posted by borisb View Post
As people seem to continue to think enTourage is dragging its feet on the Android 2.2 update, let me cite yet another example (and there are many!) of big international companies that aren't any faster at getting Android 2.2 out the door: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/s...tes-all-carri/.

Here, Samsung is indicating they'll release Android 2.2 in November (by the end of the month, no less!) which, ironically, is about the same timeframe for enTourage's release of 2.2 (according to rumours and speculation). Indeed, enTourage may beat Samsung to the punch. So, scoff not, as the little startup that could, named "enTourage", is on par with the big and mighty Samsung (among many others).

While we're all an impatient lot who wants everything yesterday, with due patience we will get Android 2.2 no quicker and no later than many other Android device owners around the world
Well-spoken, Borisb.
An as-yet not referenced "consideration" in the 2.2 implementation is/are the intricacies of the "dual screens" most EXCELLENT co-connectivity, bi-interactions/linking/web-tagging to books/passages and the plethora of other "shared" delights that need to be correctly engineered (relative to, or, in terms of OS "upgrades/updates.")
To quote Carlyle: "Silence is the element in which Great Things fashion themselves."
Merely because enTourage is not tripping over themselves to "rush" an inferior update/upgrade to satisfy the impatient, I, for one, prefer to give enTourage ALL the time they need to get it RIGHT upon release.
 
Old 11-03-2010, 08:45 PM   #11
jsfiller
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Quote:
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I, for one, prefer to give enTourage ALL the time they need to get it RIGHT upon release.
Amen!!!!!! (had to hit that 10 character minimum)
 
Old 11-03-2010, 09:22 PM   #12
Chubulor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spock View Post
Well-spoken, Borisb.
An as-yet not referenced "consideration" in the 2.2 implementation is/are the intricacies of the "dual screens" most EXCELLENT co-connectivity, bi-interactions/linking/web-tagging to books/passages and the plethora of other "shared" delights that need to be correctly engineered (relative to, or, in terms of OS "upgrades/updates.")
To quote Carlyle: "Silence is the element in which Great Things fashion themselves."
Merely because enTourage is not tripping over themselves to "rush" an inferior update/upgrade to satisfy the impatient, I, for one, prefer to give enTourage ALL the time they need to get it RIGHT upon release.
Your loyalty is impressive, but if another functionally similar device gets it right before they do, they're going to lose potential customers.

Last edited by Chubulor; 11-03-2010 at 09:27 PM.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 05:10 AM   #13
Nick_Djinn
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Just because one company is even later does not mean that EE isnt too late. Im disappointed. 1.6 isnt functional enough for my needs. I cant even watch a movie.

At least Samsung and otherse release the beta. Linux is about community development. There is none of that here.

We are going to have Honycomb out by the time they have 2.2, and the battle will be lost. Edge will become a less and less popular niche device, and they will need a need device to re-enter the game or they will fade away and lose relevancy.

You need CAPACITIVE touch, not resistive.
You need MULTI-touch. Dont skimp on this. It needs to be quality.
You need to supper hyperlinks in the e-reader side, from the table of contents, and reformating and pdf text reflow in the reader side.
Better drawing and not taking would be nice.

Other than that, its a neat concept, but battery life is too short to be a tolerable e-reader, its too heavy, and nobody is going to buy an Android device with 1.6 unless they get fooled or dont know the difference.
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4-5 months from now, nobody is going to drop good money on a NEW tablet running 2.2 either.

Android is late to the Game.

Those other companies have newer products they are working on with 3.0 honeycomb, optimized for tablets....3,0 is a game changer, more than 2.2 was. Its a small step for phones, a huge step for tablets. Its what you want on a tablet.

The two sides of the edge dont interact in a meaninful enough way. All you can do is choose content from the reader side. Its not like you have CAPACITIVE MULTI-touch on the LCD side and browsing from the reader side, or vice versa. If it was as good as Ipad touch screen, or came close to Xoom, you would have something.


The edge is made of cheap sub-par hardware and formfactor....sure, it feels sturdy enough but its too heavy and they skimped on essential touch screen technology and gave us resistive touch screen. If I had known the difference I wouldnt have bought it.


Im going to buy a xoom and a 10 inch e-reader, seperate, and place them together in one of those bindings intended for the keyboard....it will weight less than the edge and last longer....It wont be as cheap. It will probably cost me $1300, but Ill be happy with its performance.

When ARE we getting 2.2?

I cant even watch a movie in the advertised formats....I wanted to entertain my daughter on the ride down....works on my phone! Not on my edge. Im disappointed.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 09:26 AM   #14
gecko
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Quote:
You need to supper hyperlinks in the e-reader side
Good to see you're using a spelling choker.

Incidentally, I like the resistive screen; have a terrible time with capacitive ones because I have slightly long-ish thumbnails (for music); some other musicians have the same problem.

I hope you enjoy your Xoom + e-reader combo (if not the hit to your wallet), but I guess you don't want to annotate pdfs. Lots of people, and other creatures (such as myself), do, and there's nothing else that will do that.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 01:22 PM   #15
Kynareth
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I really hope EE will get this update. But I completely agree with Nick_Djinn , as my friend said, it's just silly that I can't even play a movie in a little higher resolution on device that costs 500$...
My phone costed me less and it has not problem with playing HD movies, newest android games and emulators.
 
 


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