Philli free library and Open EPub Book

John F · 04-19-2011, 02:33 PM

Looks like FLP made some changes. They now have separate icons for ebooks with DRM and without. The ones with DRM have a closed lock, and the ones without DRM have an open lock.

They haven't seemed to be adding much lately, but when I just checked, they added a whole bunch that are DRM free.

jersysman · 04-19-2011, 02:41 PM

That's always good to know. I've got to get a card and check them out. You would think I would have one already, since I am so close.

jbcohen · 04-19-2011, 02:44 PM

Don't get that worked up about DRM John its easily enough removed from the book so I would not get concerned about it. its easy enough to download an DRMed book, remove the DRM, return the book and read the book as long as you need. In fact my home county is thinking about how to work with the fact that DRM can be so easily removed rather than figiting the trend.

John F · 04-19-2011, 03:02 PM

Come to think of it, I'm just assuming they don't have DRM, but maybe they do?

Under Digital rights they list, for books with the open lock:

Quote:

Digital Rights Information
Open EPUB eBook
Copy: allowed with no limitations
Print: allowed with no limitations

and for ebooks with the closed lock:

Quote:

Digital Rights Information
Adobe EPUB eBook
Copy: allowed, but limited to 50 selections every 7 days
Print: allowed, but limited to 50 pages every 7 days

vulcan_girl · 04-19-2011, 03:52 PM

I just noticed this today - I borrowed some Carina Press books that I'd been wanting to read.

John F · 04-20-2011, 07:23 AM

Looks like it might be an Overdrive thing? The Singapore library appears to have the same icons.

Asawi · 04-20-2011, 08:30 AM

I noticed this yesterday. Or rather, I didn't notice it at first. Borrowed a book, downloaded it and things didn't look like they used to... THEN I noticed the open ePub format.

I don't know if it has DRM or not, but in my Reader Library (where I send my library books) it doesn't have an expiration date.

Asawi · 04-20-2011, 08:43 AM

OK, did some testing, and it seems the book is DRM free. I does take up one slot of my allowed ten borrowed books, and I wasn't able to return it early (haven't played around much yet, so maybe it is possible). It won't be a problem for me, but it might be for someone else, so make sure to opt for an appropriate lending time!

Loosheesh · 04-21-2011, 09:31 AM

I saw this and was curious also; I queried FLP a couple of days ago, and here is the reply I just received:

Quote:

Open ebooks are EPUB and PDF formatted ebooks that do not have DRM (digital rights management). This means that they are not locked down with publisher restrictions. They can be transferred to any device that supports EPUB or PDF files.

Just like our MP3 collection, they do not actually expire, but you are required to delete them from your device after the loan period is up.

This is a brand new collection for us and we are interested in seeing how it goes. It is the first time we have been able to offer some of these publishers, as well, so it expands our collections to new titles.

Thank you for your interest,

Jennifer R Wright
Assistant Chief
Materials Management Division
Free Library of Philadelphia

carld · 04-21-2011, 09:34 AM

I noticed the locked icons on Clevnet this morning. I haven't seen any unlocked yet. I'll have to keep an eye out for them.

Loosheesh · 04-21-2011, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asawi

OK, did some testing, and it seems the book is DRM free. I does take up one slot of my allowed ten borrowed books, and I wasn't able to return it early (haven't played around much yet, so maybe it is possible). It won't be a problem for me, but it might be for someone else, so make sure to opt for an appropriate lending time!

Thanks for the heads-up on not being able to return the Open ebooks books early; I normally choose 7 days for audio and mobipocket books, and 14 - 21 days for ePub/PDF because I can return them early. I'd hate to be forced to keep them that long.

Lsantiago7859 · 04-21-2011, 10:50 AM

Hi, how does one remove DRM easily? From what I have seen, it is a real pain in the neck. I would pay for software that would do this, yes I am lazy to an extent LOL.

04-19-2011, 02:33 PM	#1
John F Wizard Posts: 3,460 Karma: 19611248 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Glo HD	Philli free library and Open EPub Book Looks like FLP made some changes. They now have separate icons for ebooks with DRM and without. The ones with DRM have a closed lock, and the ones without DRM have an open lock. They haven't seemed to be adding much lately, but when I just checked, they added a whole bunch that are DRM free.

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jersysman Wizard Posts: 1,747 Karma: 3761220 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Device: T1 Red, Kindle Fire, Kindle PW, PW2, Nook HD+, Kobo Mini, Aura HD	That's always good to know. I've got to get a card and check them out. You would think I would have one already, since I am so close.

04-19-2011, 02:44 PM	#3
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 2,980 Karma: 5959492 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: A sub-routine in the file Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 and a Kindle Basic	Don't get that worked up about DRM John its easily enough removed from the book so I would not get concerned about it. its easy enough to download an DRMed book, remove the DRM, return the book and read the book as long as you need. In fact my home county is thinking about how to work with the fact that DRM can be so easily removed rather than figiting the trend.

04-19-2011, 03:52 PM	#5
vulcan_girl Groupie Posts: 153 Karma: 1010345 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: PRS 350	I just noticed this today - I borrowed some Carina Press books that I'd been wanting to read.

04-20-2011, 07:23 AM	#6
John F Wizard Posts: 3,460 Karma: 19611248 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Glo HD	Looks like it might be an Overdrive thing? The Singapore library appears to have the same icons.

04-20-2011, 08:30 AM	#7
Asawi Gadgetoholic Posts: 1,379 Karma: 1953236 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sweden Device: Sony PRS-350, Assorted Nooks	I noticed this yesterday. Or rather, I didn't notice it at first. Borrowed a book, downloaded it and things didn't look like they used to... THEN I noticed the open ePub format. I don't know if it has DRM or not, but in my Reader Library (where I send my library books) it doesn't have an expiration date.

04-20-2011, 08:43 AM	#8
Asawi Gadgetoholic Posts: 1,379 Karma: 1953236 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sweden Device: Sony PRS-350, Assorted Nooks	OK, did some testing, and it seems the book is DRM free. I does take up one slot of my allowed ten borrowed books, and I wasn't able to return it early (haven't played around much yet, so maybe it is possible). It won't be a problem for me, but it might be for someone else, so make sure to opt for an appropriate lending time!

04-21-2011, 09:34 AM	#10
carld Wizard Posts: 2,686 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, Droid Razr Maxx HD	I noticed the locked icons on Clevnet this morning. I haven't seen any unlocked yet. I'll have to keep an eye out for them.

04-21-2011, 10:50 AM	#12
Lsantiago7859 Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Decatur Device: none	Hi, how does one remove DRM easily? From what I have seen, it is a real pain in the neck. I would pay for software that would do this, yes I am lazy to an extent LOL.

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