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Old 04-04-2011, 10:01 AM   #1
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Thumbs up a way to solve peer to peer wifi problem about kindle

if you want to use connection of your pc/notebook running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 ; with a virtual rooter program and shared connection you can use your kindle:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/share-i...outer-windows/

Ive tried and it works (since Kindle does not connect to enterprise or ad-hoc Wi-Fi networks, this seems to be simplest way )

Unfortunately only available for certain WiFi cards:
http://virtualrouter.codeplex.com/wi...=Documentation

However there are others (I didn't try but should work):
a portable app: mhotspot

http://alternativeto.net/software/vi...atform=windows

Wmwifirouter, Joiku (and much others) are for mobile(windows, android, apple,nokia..), therefore may be very useful:
http://alternativeto.net/software/wmwifirouter/
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96396

(actually not a hack, but resemble...)

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Old 04-04-2011, 10:26 AM   #2
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Isn't this same as adhoc networks ? THe Kindle I own, 3 with WiFi doesn't support adhoc network and so says the official kindle page in amazon.com
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:30 AM   #3
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Isn't this same as adhoc networks ?
No its not. It is like an emulation of a rooter. Therefore Kindle accepts it. (as I said I've tried with my Kindle 3)

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Is there any equivalent of this for Linux ? The standard Network manager's ad-hoc doesn't seem to work with Kindle.
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:42 AM   #5
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Is there any equivalent of this for Linux ?
Actually there is a way for linux( I didn't try ): hostapd http://zhangyou.wordpress.com/2010/0...irtual-router/
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/...tation/hostapd

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Old 04-04-2011, 12:29 PM   #6
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Thanks I will check it out.
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I use my android phone as a gateway. I connect the phone to the ad-hoc network at Uni, and also have it set up as a limited wifi hotspot (available in the settings menu) (limited in that I only allow my Kindle to connect to it, not anything/anyone else). Works perfectly.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:31 AM   #8
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no need to an app on windows 7

using an administrator command line :
>netsh wlan set hostednetwork mode=allow ssid="give a name" key="password" keyUsage=persistent
>netsh wlan start hostednetwork
then its ready (if your wifi card supported)
(to stop on cmmd:
>netsh wlan stop hostednetwork
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:22 AM   #9
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using an administrator command line :
>netsh wlan set hostednetwork mode=allow ssid="give a name" key="password" keyUsage=persistent
>netsh wlan start hostednetwork
then its ready (if your wifi card supported)
(to stop on cmmd:
>netsh wlan stop hostednetwork
Hi,

When I do this, I get this error:

Code:
Unable to Connect to Wi-Fi Network

The password you entered is incorrect or invalid.
Your Kindle is unable to connect to this Wi-Fi network "testkindle". Would you like to enter the password again or manually set up this network?
I am certain the I've typed in the correct password.
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:54 AM   #10
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I am certain the I've typed in the correct password.
Sorry, I'm not very good on that stuff, but keyUsage=persistent part is belong the first line ( altogether a single code). a probable mistake?
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Sorry, I'm not very good on that stuff, but keyUsage=persistent part is belong the first line ( altogether a single code). a probable mistake?
Yes, I included keyUsage=persistent in the first line. I also tried the virtual router software, and I got the same error.

Does the Kindle browser work while you're connected to your virtual network? If so, how did you share the internet connection?
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:51 AM   #12
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Does the Kindle browser work while you're connected to your virtual network? If so, how did you share the internet connection?
Yes, it works exactly like a real router. I can use my kindle with a perfect internet connection.
I couldn't figure out where the problem is. the possible solutions:
As you guessed you probably do not have a shared internet connection( a network,modem...etc with a shared internet connection)
you should have a shared internet connection on your computer:
Start→Control Panel→Network and Internet→change adapter settings → select the connected adapter→ right click→properties →share tab→Select the "Allow Other Network Users to Connect through This Computer’s Internet Connection" check box+ also (on the same tab) settings→check all→save
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...windows-7.html

and virtual router works after a reboot after installation. first connect to internet then start the app.
and use a simple password to try.
(I rechecked these codes, they worked as expected.)

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Yes, it works exactly like a real router. I can use my kindle with a perfect internet connection.
I couldn't figure out where the problem is. the possible solutions:
As you guessed you probably do not have a shared internet connection( a network,modem...etc with a shared internet connection)
you should have a shared internet connection on your computer:
Start→Control Panel→Network and Internet→change adapter settings → select the connected adapter→ right click→properties →share tab→Select the "Allow Other Network Users to Connect through This Computer’s Internet Connection" check box+ also (on the same tab) settings→check all→save
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...windows-7.html

and virtual router works after a reboot after installation. first connect to internet then start the app.
and use a simple password to try.
(I rechecked these codes, they worked as expected.)
Did you use manual configuration on the Kindle? Or did you just enter in the password and let the Kindle auto detect the information? If you manually configured, could you please tell me what you set?

As for that link, I did that before, and it did not work. I just tried the same thing on my laptop, but it did not work either.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:32 AM   #14
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Did you use manual configuration on the Kindle?
As you said, I just enter in the password and let the Kindle auto detect the information. no need to any manual configuration. (but after that, to use ssh in a quick way I set My Kindle a static IP configuration. It also worked.)

let me ask you:
1) what is your wifi card(which you want to use as a router)? does it seem supported on: http://virtualrouter.codeplex.com/wi...=Documentation
for example mine is an Atheros5007EG, and seems supported on that site.(thanks God!..)
2) your OS? is it windows 7?
3) did you set an connected adaptor as shared? (settings on "share" tab...)
4)Does it says at the bottom of virtual router screen that "virtual router started" ?

It should work if things above is OK....
However from your previous posts, it seems that you have no problems with that. Could you try to connect any other device? laptop,mobile etc..

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As you said, I just enter in the password and let the Kindle auto detect the information. no need to any manual configuration. (but after that, to use ssh in a quick way I set My Kindle a static IP configuration. It also worked.)

let me ask you:
1) what is your wifi card(which you want to use as a router)? does it seem supported on: http://virtualrouter.codeplex.com/wi...=Documentation
for example mine is an Atheros5007EG, and seems supported on that site.(thanks God!..)
2) your OS? is it windows 7?
3) did you set an connected adaptor as shared? (settings on "share" tab...)
4)Does it says at the bottom of virtual router screen that "virtual router started" ?

It should work if things above is OK....
However from your previous posts, it seems that you have no problems with that. Could you try to connect any other device? laptop,mobile etc..
1) I'm not sure what my WiFi card is. I know it is Ralink, but I have no idea what model number it is. Under device manager, it simply shows up as "802.11n Wireless LAN Card". Is there a software to determine the model number?
2) Yes, I have Windows 7 x64
3) Yes, I set my LAN (my desktop is wired) to be shared
4) Yes, it started fine. The "start Virtual Router" button turned to "stop Virtual Router" when I started it.

I will try connecting with my laptop once I retrieve the power cord.
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