Color Comes to E Ink Screens

BWhite · 11-07-2010, 11:20 PM

Title of Thread is the title of article at NY Times...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/08/te...gy/08ink.html?

Traecer Prime · 11-08-2010, 12:06 AM

Ooh, shiny

Thanks for the link!

wallcraft · 11-08-2010, 12:12 AM

The first thing I want to know about EInk color is whether or not it makes black contrast lower. I am rather afraid that it will. So to get color we may have to live with worse text (perhaps back to Vizpex clarity vs Pearl clarity).

LDBoblo · 11-08-2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

The first thing I want to know about EInk color is whether or not it makes black contrast lower. I am rather afraid that it will. So to get color we may have to live with worse text (perhaps back to Vizpex clarity vs Pearl clarity).

Yes, color EPDs will have inferior optical characteristics when compared to the monochrome versions.

Xanthe · 11-08-2010, 12:27 AM

That's going to push the bar for the other manufacturers, even if the image isn't as sharp as that with the current Pearl screen. I think the pressure is going to be on the Kindle to go the next gen to color e-ink as soon as possible. The Nook just made its move. Sony isn't going to go the color route, if they're not bothering with WiFi. Kobo is still working out its kinks.

brecklundin · 11-08-2010, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

The first thing I want to know about EInk color is whether or not it makes black contrast lower. I am rather afraid that it will. So to get color we may have to live with worse text (perhaps back to Vizpex clarity vs Pearl clarity).

I worry about the contrast as well...last thing that I think anyone would want to see are washed out dull screen colors.

I guess depends on the tech for the given panel. Most significantly if they use a true black in the color's used. A true white matters as well. But like you say a black produced only via color "mixing" will likely be a poor result, but I feel if it uses a true black to augment the likely needed mixed black needed to fill in the whole cell/pixel then it likely would be fine and nothing our eyes would differentiate.

Still, it's all new and we'll see...but this a nice move forward...

CTH · 11-08-2010, 02:57 AM

From the article "To create the color image, E Ink uses its standard black-and-white display overlaid with a color filter."

Seems like a nice product, if it is as fast as normal screens I would not mind buying one, even at a 400$ price

cvkemp · 11-08-2010, 07:13 AM

Personally I read on a ebook reader. The only use I could see for this is to improve on the images and charts. But if the text is not going to be as good as my Kindle 3 screen then I say no thanks.

mr ploppy · 11-08-2010, 07:59 AM

It would be good for comics and magazines if the screen was big enough. Otherwise I don't really see the point.

monkeyluis · 11-08-2010, 08:04 AM

I was going to post this too. Here is another article.

http://m.syfy.com/inf/infomo?site=sy...feed:i=3.76773

brecklundin · 11-08-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mr ploppy

It would be good for comics and magazines if the screen was big enough. Otherwise I don't really see the point.

Rather dismissive to overlook reference and other non-fiction books which require color? The reader announce is an ~10" reader which, while not ideal for those books, it's a huge leap over a 6" panel. We need 11"-12" panels to really make it reasonable and w/o scaling or layout issues.

ricsmania · 11-08-2010, 09:57 AM

Can't wait to see this tech in netbook screens and phones.

markuskane · 11-08-2010, 10:25 AM

Now add a touchscreen, and I'm sold.

rebarnmom · 11-08-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

I was going to post this too. Here is another article.

http://m.syfy.com/inf/infomo?site=sy...feed:i=3.76773

Quote:

Can color E Ink resuscitate e-readers?

is the title above the pic. I didn't know e-readers were dying!

If the color looks as good as in the picture I think that looks pretty good!
To me muted color is better than no color at all, unless it degrades the contrast in black & white.

rebarnmom · 11-08-2010, 01:24 PM

I love the 10" screen size! Hopefully we can see some actual video of it working after it's presented at the FPD trade show! And get more specs!

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Traecer Prime Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 27 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Time and Space, the perfect escape Device: Sony PRS-T2	Ooh, shiny Thanks for the link!

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wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	The first thing I want to know about EInk color is whether or not it makes black contrast lower. I am rather afraid that it will. So to get color we may have to live with worse text (perhaps back to Vizpex clarity vs Pearl clarity).

11-08-2010, 12:27 AM	#5
Xanthe Plan B Is Now In Force Posts: 1,894 Karma: 8086979 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Surebleak Device: Aluratek,Sony 350/T1,Pandigital,eBM 911,Nook HD/HD+,Fire HDX 7/8.9,PW2	That's going to push the bar for the other manufacturers, even if the image isn't as sharp as that with the current Pearl screen. I think the pressure is going to be on the Kindle to go the next gen to color e-ink as soon as possible. The Nook just made its move. Sony isn't going to go the color route, if they're not bothering with WiFi. Kobo is still working out its kinks.

11-08-2010, 02:57 AM	#7
CTH Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1000153 Join Date: Jan 2007	From the article "To create the color image, E Ink uses its standard black-and-white display overlaid with a color filter." Seems like a nice product, if it is as fast as normal screens I would not mind buying one, even at a 400$ price

11-08-2010, 07:13 AM	#8
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	Personally I read on a ebook reader. The only use I could see for this is to improve on the images and charts. But if the text is not going to be as good as my Kindle 3 screen then I say no thanks.

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mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	It would be good for comics and magazines if the screen was big enough. Otherwise I don't really see the point.

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monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	I was going to post this too. Here is another article. http://m.syfy.com/inf/infomo?site=sy...feed:i=3.76773

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ricsmania Connoisseur Posts: 61 Karma: 40 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brazil Device: Kindle 3 3G+Wifi	Can't wait to see this tech in netbook screens and phones.

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markuskane Markus Kane Posts: 49 Karma: 50000 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle	Now add a touchscreen, and I'm sold.

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rebarnmom Wizard Posts: 1,289 Karma: 4525055 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: rural Illinois, USA Device: Sony PRS-700 (traded in), Sony PRS-650	I love the 10" screen size! Hopefully we can see some actual video of it working after it's presented at the FPD trade show! And get more specs!

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