epubs and ogg files

marinheiro · 11-04-2010, 01:35 PM

Got a Kindle as a present today which was a nice surprise. Soon found out one downside is the restricted handling of formats: my music is all in ogg format, and I'm working with epubs for my ebooks. I know I can convert everything to mpeg/mobi formats, but I don't see why I should have to go backwards to more closed formats.

So I started looking at jailbreaking: again a nice surprise, now I can ssh in to a nice linux bookreader. But looking round for apps to install I've been a bit baffled: what I've seen so far are fonts and screensavers, plus a stalled attempt to create a full Qt environment. Nothing inbetween. Am I missing something? Has anyone started porting other applications (like music players and epub readers!) over? Is there another forum for this? Or is the environment too specialised for it to be do-able?

Graham

Zerodime · 11-05-2010, 11:10 AM

It is doable, but unfortunatly not wanted till now.
And some people are afraid of briking thier device too

If you have any motivation maybe we could try a little bit?
Start small and work upstairs because I would love fiddling with the kindles underlying OS/Programs but never had the inspiration todo so.

marinheiro · 11-05-2010, 01:42 PM

Whats best?

- try to port existing apps over (maybe commandline to start) - needs a compiler toolchain and low-level knowledge

- or Andrew de Quincy's approach - http://adq.livejournal.com/106967.html - integrate changes in java environment so can avoid need for low-level stuff (but Java :-(

- or try to use existing js epub libraries with webkit (but I read that the browser no longer allows file:// urls)

I would be interested whichever way, but don't have the skills to lead any. Whichever way is least likely to lead to a continuous fight with Amazon updates needing rewrites on each upgrade would be best!

Graham

Zerodime · 11-06-2010, 07:59 AM

the best way would be to use the kindle-environment, the second best would be to use commandline tools. Its a bit harder with Quincys approach because the KDK isn't available yet, until then we could try that though.

Rinzwind · 11-06-2010, 04:16 PM

Duokan got released in English: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=105316

It is still beta and no OGG support but ... epubs work now

So that is not bad

Wireless does not work either

But it is still in beta

marinheiro · 11-12-2010, 06:52 PM

Resurrected distant memories of java, got eclipse working, helloworld now runs on kindle but sitting in documents directory. Now how to get it into the menu system?

(zerotime: you can see from my speed this is going to be a looong slow process...)

(Rinzwind: looks like duokan might fix my immediate needs but not sure about getting dependent on non-free program developed in language I don't know.. Anyway, it's nice just to play a bit.)

Graham

11-04-2010, 01:35 PM	#1
marinheiro Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 377922 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Pocketbook, Kobo Aura, Kobo Elipsa	epubs and ogg files Got a Kindle as a present today which was a nice surprise. Soon found out one downside is the restricted handling of formats: my music is all in ogg format, and I'm working with epubs for my ebooks. I know I can convert everything to mpeg/mobi formats, but I don't see why I should have to go backwards to more closed formats. So I started looking at jailbreaking: again a nice surprise, now I can ssh in to a nice linux bookreader. But looking round for apps to install I've been a bit baffled: what I've seen so far are fonts and screensavers, plus a stalled attempt to create a full Qt environment. Nothing inbetween. Am I missing something? Has anyone started porting other applications (like music players and epub readers!) over? Is there another forum for this? Or is the environment too specialised for it to be do-able? Graham

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11-05-2010, 11:10 AM	#2
Zerodime Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 44 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle3	It is doable, but unfortunatly not wanted till now. And some people are afraid of briking thier device too If you have any motivation maybe we could try a little bit? Start small and work upstairs because I would love fiddling with the kindles underlying OS/Programs but never had the inspiration todo so.

11-05-2010, 01:42 PM	#3
marinheiro Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 377922 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Pocketbook, Kobo Aura, Kobo Elipsa	Whats best? - try to port existing apps over (maybe commandline to start) - needs a compiler toolchain and low-level knowledge - or Andrew de Quincy's approach - http://adq.livejournal.com/106967.html - integrate changes in java environment so can avoid need for low-level stuff (but Java :-( - or try to use existing js epub libraries with webkit (but I read that the browser no longer allows file:// urls) I would be interested whichever way, but don't have the skills to lead any. Whichever way is least likely to lead to a continuous fight with Amazon updates needing rewrites on each upgrade would be best! Graham

11-06-2010, 07:59 AM	#4
Zerodime Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 44 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle3	the best way would be to use the kindle-environment, the second best would be to use commandline tools. Its a bit harder with Quincys approach because the KDK isn't available yet, until then we could try that though.

11-06-2010, 04:16 PM	#5
Rinzwind Connoisseur Posts: 96 Karma: 16 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Netherlands Device: Kindle 3G UK 3.03	Duokan got released in English: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=105316 It is still beta and no OGG support but ... epubs work now So that is not bad Wireless does not work either But it is still in beta

11-12-2010, 06:52 PM	#6
marinheiro Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 377922 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Pocketbook, Kobo Aura, Kobo Elipsa	Resurrected distant memories of java, got eclipse working, helloworld now runs on kindle but sitting in documents directory. Now how to get it into the menu system? (zerotime: you can see from my speed this is going to be a looong slow process...) (Rinzwind: looks like duokan might fix my immediate needs but not sure about getting dependent on non-free program developed in language I don't know.. Anyway, it's nice just to play a bit.) Graham

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