War and Peace

drofgnal · 12-21-2009, 12:27 PM

It has been quite a few years since I read War and Peace, probably will again soon, now that my Kindle is coming. There are 8 different war and peace books listed on Kindle.

Which to download? I downloaded the $0.00 one, but have no way of knowing if I should have. A couple look to be abridged based on file size, but none specifically state so. One that can be previewed has the terrible habit of having a lot of the spoken text in French (where appropriate) footnoted with English translation.

Can anyone point me to a good one??

desertgrandma · 12-21-2009, 12:32 PM

How about this one, from here?

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16794

HarryT · 12-21-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drofgnal

One that can be previewed has the terrible habit of having a lot of the spoken text in French (where appropriate) footnoted with English translation.

There IS quite a lot of spoken French in "War and Peace", and I don't think I've ever seen an edition which translates it other than in footnotes. It's just the way that the book is.

osnova · 12-21-2009, 01:11 PM

I had to read it in Russian at school. Yes, the French is there in the original (no translation given by Leo!). By the way, read some interesting info about the title here.

drofgnal · 12-21-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

How about this one, from here?

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16794

Thanks a bunch. Unfortunately I loaded it into Calibre and it did not like it at all. It read it in, retrieved metadata and converted to mobi. But when I tried the viewer it choked everytime. It would read in, show the cover, but when you tried to go to a page or table of contents it would give you a message 'reading flow data' then crash.

Oh well, the Amazon one works. Thanks again. I'd like to know what went wrong?

Mike L · 12-21-2009, 02:59 PM

Drofgnal,

I've not seen any of the Kindle editions of War and Peace, but I see that the version on Project Gutenberg (translated by Louise Maude) does indeed have the French in the body of the text, with the English in footnotes (immediately below the paragraph to which they refer). There are some exceptions -- I suppose in cases where the translator considers the French would be obvious to an English speaker -- but for most part it follows the footnote pattern.

That said, I also have the more modern Rosemary Edmonds translation, and that appears not to have any such footnotes. In fact, as far as I can see at a quick glance, most of the French has been rendered in English in the body of the text.

Unfortunately, there's probably no way to know if that particular edition is available for the Kindle, given that the product descriptions don't include the translator's name. I suspect it isn't, given the relatively low prices and the fact that the Edmonds translation is still in copyright.

Hope you find what you are looking for.

drofgnal · 12-21-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

There IS quite a lot of spoken French in "War and Peace", and I don't think I've ever seen an edition which translates it other than in footnotes. It's just the way that the book is.

They vary by the amount of French. The one I previewed on Amazon has the entire first paragraph spoken by Anna Pavlovna in French. The Signet classics paperback only has 'Eh bien, mon prince, ' the rest in English. I don't mind the simple phrases in French but entire paragraphs gets old.

The no cost one here on Amazon actually has no French, even the simple phrases are in English. That too is slightly disappointing as those simple lead-in phrases spoken in French say something about the nature of the character in the book, French being spoken by the Russian elite of the time.

Here is the link to the Amazon one for $0.00.

http://www.amazon.com/War-and-Peace-...1425747&sr=1-2

it seemingly navigates fairly well on my iphone. (Kindle arrives via ups today!!)

I did discover the one corresponding to the Signet Classics paperback is also available on amazon for Kindle (for 8.76) (Translation by Ann Dunnigan). I may order that one when I finally embark as that is the translation I've read before with the minimal amount of lead in French phrases for effect.

Thanks to all.

12-21-2009, 12:27 PM	#1
drofgnal Wizard Posts: 1,230 Karma: 7838248 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Ipad Pro/Kindle Oasis 3/iPhone 13 Pro Max	War and Peace It has been quite a few years since I read War and Peace, probably will again soon, now that my Kindle is coming. There are 8 different war and peace books listed on Kindle. Which to download? I downloaded the $0.00 one, but have no way of knowing if I should have. A couple look to be abridged based on file size, but none specifically state so. One that can be previewed has the terrible habit of having a lot of the spoken text in French (where appropriate) footnoted with English translation. Can anyone point me to a good one??

12-21-2009, 01:11 PM	#4
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	I had to read it in Russian at school. Yes, the French is there in the original (no translation given by Leo!). By the way, read some interesting info about the title here. Last edited by osnova; 12-21-2009 at 01:17 PM.

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desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462841 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	How about this one, from here? https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16794

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Mike L Wizard Posts: 1,479 Karma: 3846231 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Device: Kindle 3, Samsung Galaxy	Drofgnal, I've not seen any of the Kindle editions of War and Peace, but I see that the version on Project Gutenberg (translated by Louise Maude) does indeed have the French in the body of the text, with the English in footnotes (immediately below the paragraph to which they refer). There are some exceptions -- I suppose in cases where the translator considers the French would be obvious to an English speaker -- but for most part it follows the footnote pattern. That said, I also have the more modern Rosemary Edmonds translation, and that appears not to have any such footnotes. In fact, as far as I can see at a quick glance, most of the French has been rendered in English in the body of the text. Unfortunately, there's probably no way to know if that particular edition is available for the Kindle, given that the product descriptions don't include the translator's name. I suspect it isn't, given the relatively low prices and the fact that the Edmonds translation is still in copyright. Hope you find what you are looking for.

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