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You're still missing my point... you can't/don't predict the way that life is going to go... choose the renting/cloud option , get dealt a raw deal and you've got nothing because the actual digital material (whatever it is) doesn't belong to you... if it's on my computer/reader/DVD/Hard Disk then it's mine regardless of what may happen bar total disaster...
Renting/cloud, it's all the same, back in someone else's control whereas the whole point of modern computing came about as Personal Computing to remove the power from the high priests of the mainframe... now we're blithely handing it back... Quote:
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02-22-2011, 01:04 AM | #62 |
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We're not handing it back now ... we handed it back when we accepted operating systems that didn't come with any form of programming language, because we're just consumers, not creators -- people who shouldn't need to write anything. That's for the high priests to do, not us lusers.
Most people don't want control, or even rights; they want convenience. And they want it despite anything it may cost them, especially any intangible thing. Look at how many people will not only trade essential liberties for a little temporary security, but will demand to be able to do so. The price of liberty, they say, is eternal vigilance. That includes saying "hey, where's my BASIC?" and "I bought this thing already, I shouldn't have to pay for it again" Sadly, almost nobody cares. |
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I'm talking about the OPTION to rent a book, advertised as a rental rather than under the pretense of actually obtaining the book permanently, and at a price significantly lower that buying price. Complementing the option of paying for a file to download and keep "forever", not replacing it. Libraries didn't kill bookshops, video rental didn't kill video sales, so I really don't see why rental and buying would have be mutually exclusive. |
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I'm not sure how that's relevant to my comment?
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02-22-2011, 07:15 PM | #66 | |
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Think about cars: you can buy a car, and keep that car until the wheels fall off. Or you can rent (lease) a car, and at the end, you've paid all that money but you don't have a car. Plus, of course, if you buy the car, it belongs to you and you can drive it for as many miles per year as you want, carry a goat in the back if you really feel you have to, and so on; if you lease it, it belongs to the lessor and you're limited in what you can actually do with it. This might not matter if you just take the kids to soccer practice, but if you have a 100-mile commute, or a need to haul a goat, that might present problems. Renting is not buying, and not comparable to buying. |
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02-22-2011, 11:19 PM | #67 |
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I agree that renting is not buying, only many of us are fine with renting because what we like is the experience of reading the book, not the security of ownership, most of the time. If you want to read it again, you can always borrow it again or buy it, but 80% of books I read I don't reread so I'm not too concerned about ownership when balanced with price. I always prefer to borrow books from the library to buying them unless they're my #1 authors (or I can't get them from the library as happens a lot).
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02-23-2011, 01:25 AM | #68 |
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HI
Perhaps you could model your plan along the lines that Zune uses. I pay $15.00 per month to download as many songs and albums as I want. As long as I pay my 15 the songs remain active and I can play them if I stop the service the songs will not play if I start the service back up they will play again. Each month I get ten credits to buy the songs I like the most and I get to keep them forever If I don't use my credits each month I lose them. I get to try artists I would not other wise spend the money on If I like them I use my credits. For me this plan works and I don't mind the expense some months I don't use it that much some months I do You could allow say 6 downloads that expire and let them keep or own one of them each month food for thought Gary Last edited by Blusaber; 02-23-2011 at 01:31 AM. |
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02-24-2011, 12:05 AM | #70 |
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I tried using an analogy in the hopes of making my point clear to you. Renting is not buying. Again, you have a photographic memory, and you can store books in your mental "library"; very few people have that advantage, and we need to have those books on hand if we want to read them again. Some people only read a book once; some read the covers off of it. If you're one of the former, then it makes sense to rent your books; if you're one of the latter, it makes sense to buy them. But in neither case is renting the same thing as buying.
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Okay for those that think the thread is about renting ebooks, "IT IS NOT". Some have gotten off subject with "right and write". I have no more questions, and we are about done with our project. Thank you to all that did give me better insight. Talk to you all later.
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Also, back from the days I was very frugal, I would just check my favorite books out of the library repeatedly until I read the covers off of it. I didn't actually OWN many of them until about 15 years later when I had the cash. |
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Photography equipment is often better to rent, because while I'd love own that $3000 lens, it's not in the cards and is better to just pay $50 for a weeks use. Car rental (or leasing), apartment rental vs buying a house, they ALL have pros and cons depending on each individual. |
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02-24-2011, 01:46 PM | #75 |
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Renting versus buying is a decision everyone makes, and it's different for different things. For example, I bought my car but rent my house.
But I don't think they're the same thing, not even the same "with the exception of keeping it." They're two totally different things, and it's disingenuous to try to pretend they're the same. I just got a laugh out of vrodbrad and his attempts at telling everybody else what they had to do, and what they had to write about, though I was tempted to make a snarky "who died and made you mod?" comment. |
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