Kindle Touch/PW1/PW2 5.0.x - 5.4.4.2 JailBreak. Plus FW 5.x USBNetwork. - Page 93

Ruskie_it · 11-28-2014, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

CRP was merged in RP if, and only if, you're using kaznelson's merged installer (cf. the FAQ entry in the first post)

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I kept the versions in my snapshots separate, because the point of merging stuff gets moot w/ MRPI

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Even before your post, I decided to apply them both, just to be safe.

dsmid · 11-28-2014, 08:11 AM

RP gets you into diags by creating a file in user store while CRP gets you into diags by connecting a USB cable (while booting).

Ruskie_it · 11-28-2014, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmid

RP gets you into diags by creating a file in user store while CRP gets you into diags by connecting a USB cable (while booting).

Yeah, I got that from the description. However, what I am not sure of was: does the connected usb cable need to have power (that is: other end attached to a power source) or not?

knc1 · 11-28-2014, 08:34 AM

I don't think that was ever tested for, since it would take a hand-made cable.

The USB cables that are actually 2-wire, are "Power only" -
The USB cables that are actually 4-wire, are "Power and Data" -
I have never heard of a 2-wire, "Data Only" USB cable.

If your thinking a 4-wire cable plugged into a powered hub, and no power on the hub -
well, enough "power" will "leak" from the driver connection to the driven connection(s) to keep the link alive.
(Been there, done that, used to accidentally kick the wall wart out of the wall frequently.)

dsmid · 11-28-2014, 09:37 AM

Yes, the USB cable needs to be powered - so anything that is able to charge Kindle has to be on the other side of the cable: PC, laptop, smartphone, USB power adapter, ...

NiLuJe · 11-28-2014, 01:40 PM

@dsmid: Did you ever figure out why the CRP doesn't work on the Touch (at boot time)? [Besides the Touch having a crappy USB stack ^^]

dsmid · 11-28-2014, 01:59 PM

Yep, each model's "charging" indicator has a different sysfs path.
Normally you would call

Code:

kdb get system/driver/charger/SYS_CHARGING_FILE

to get it but kdb is not available at this stage.
The crpa script contains paths for both PW1 and PW2 but I don't know what the correct path for KT is.

NiLuJe · 11-28-2014, 02:02 PM

@dsmid: Oh, sorry, I meant even with the correct path handled (which is /sys/devices/platform/fsl-usb2-udc/connected, FWIW), it doesn't take at boot, but works fine at a later time.

goldencore · 11-28-2014, 04:59 PM

For safety reasons I installed USB Networking and the rescue pack (including the coward pack) on my PW2. Do I have to set anything in the KUAL Menu for the USB Networking to be prepared if something goes really wrong on my device?

NiLuJe · 11-28-2014, 05:05 PM

USBNet should be setup and enabled at boot to be of any use in these kind of cases, but, granted, on FW 5.x, you have to know exactly what's causing a boot to fail and be really, really, really fast if you hope to fix it over USBNet. Hence the Rescue Pack

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goldencore · 11-28-2014, 05:18 PM

So, the USB Networking is basically of no interest for me. :-)

alaskazimm · 11-28-2014, 05:42 PM

I was trying to update the jailbreak from 1.11N to 1.13N and followed the directions to unzip the kindle-5.4-jailbreak to the root. Rebooted the device, saw the Update Successful screen, but never saw the **** JAILBREAK **** notice.
Being unsure if the update took, I used the Update_jailbreak_bridge_1.13.N_install file and saw the proper Jailbreak notice. So am I up to date with 1.13N? and how to tell?
Also there look to be some files left over in the root from my original attempt. Which ones can I delete?
Thank you

Ruskie_it · 11-28-2014, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alaskazimm

I was trying to update the jailbreak from 1.11N to 1.13N and followed the directions to unzip the kindle-5.4-jailbreak to the root. Rebooted the device, saw the Update Successful screen, but never saw the **** JAILBREAK **** notice.
Being unsure if the update took, I used the Update_jailbreak_bridge_1.13.N_install file and saw the proper Jailbreak notice. So am I up to date with 1.13N? and how to tell?
Also there look to be some files left over in the root from my original attempt. Which ones can I delete?

How to tell I wouldn't know in an easy way (that is, only looking at the userstore), but as per our posts in the forum you did update jb correctly: if you were already jailbroken, all you needed was the bridge install file, you didn't even need to unpack the kindle-5.4-jailbreak file, the bridge bin was enough.
You can delete all the files in your / directory, except the two .calibre files, that your calibre uses for sync purposes.

NiLuJe · 11-28-2014, 05:52 PM

@alaskazimm: What @Ruskie_it said. The JB is *NOT* a real update package, it should *never* trigger an update or a reboot if done properly (and run on a supported FW version).

The bridge, on the other hand, is a real update package.

Trying to do both at the same time will only confuse you and the system.

alaskazimm · 11-28-2014, 06:05 PM

Thank you NiLuJe and Ruskie_it. That makes sense; I think I'm all straight on that now.

11-28-2014, 01:59 PM	#1387
dsmid Linux devotee Posts: 598 Karma: 2069047 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle 4B, Kindle PW2	Yep, each model's "charging" indicator has a different sysfs path. Normally you would call Code: kdb get system/driver/charger/SYS_CHARGING_FILE to get it but kdb is not available at this stage. The crpa script contains paths for both PW1 and PW2 but I don't know what the correct path for KT is.

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11-28-2014, 08:11 AM	#1382
dsmid Linux devotee Posts: 598 Karma: 2069047 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle 4B, Kindle PW2	RP gets you into diags by creating a file in user store while CRP gets you into diags by connecting a USB cable (while booting).

11-28-2014, 08:34 AM	#1384
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	I don't think that was ever tested for, since it would take a hand-made cable. The USB cables that are actually 2-wire, are "Power only" - The USB cables that are actually 4-wire, are "Power and Data" - I have never heard of a 2-wire, "Data Only" USB cable. If your thinking a 4-wire cable plugged into a powered hub, and no power on the hub - well, enough "power" will "leak" from the driver connection to the driven connection(s) to keep the link alive. (Been there, done that, used to accidentally kick the wall wart out of the wall frequently.)

11-28-2014, 09:37 AM	#1385
dsmid Linux devotee Posts: 598 Karma: 2069047 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle 4B, Kindle PW2	Yes, the USB cable needs to be powered - so anything that is able to charge Kindle has to be on the other side of the cable: PC, laptop, smartphone, USB power adapter, ...

11-28-2014, 01:40 PM	#1386
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@dsmid: Did you ever figure out why the CRP doesn't work on the Touch (at boot time)? [Besides the Touch having a crappy USB stack ^^]

11-28-2014, 02:02 PM	#1388
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@dsmid: Oh, sorry, I meant even with the correct path handled (which is /sys/devices/platform/fsl-usb2-udc/connected, FWIW), it doesn't take at boot, but works fine at a later time.

11-28-2014, 04:59 PM	#1389
goldencore Enthusiast Posts: 51 Karma: 14 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Germany Device: PW 2 FW 5.4.5.1 (JB)	For safety reasons I installed USB Networking and the rescue pack (including the coward pack) on my PW2. Do I have to set anything in the KUAL Menu for the USB Networking to be prepared if something goes really wrong on my device?

11-28-2014, 05:05 PM	#1390
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	USBNet should be setup and enabled at boot to be of any use in these kind of cases, but, granted, on FW 5.x, you have to know exactly what's causing a boot to fail and be really, really, really fast if you hope to fix it over USBNet. Hence the Rescue Pack .

11-28-2014, 05:18 PM	#1391
goldencore Enthusiast Posts: 51 Karma: 14 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Germany Device: PW 2 FW 5.4.5.1 (JB)	So, the USB Networking is basically of no interest for me. :-)

11-28-2014, 05:42 PM	#1392
alaskazimm Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 338 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Western Alaska Device: Kindle Paperwhite PW5, Kobo Clara Colour	I was trying to update the jailbreak from 1.11N to 1.13N and followed the directions to unzip the kindle-5.4-jailbreak to the root. Rebooted the device, saw the Update Successful screen, but never saw the ** JAILBREAK ** notice. Being unsure if the update took, I used the Update_jailbreak_bridge_1.13.N_install file and saw the proper Jailbreak notice. So am I up to date with 1.13N? and how to tell? Also there look to be some files left over in the root from my original attempt. Which ones can I delete? Thank you

11-28-2014, 05:52 PM	#1394
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@alaskazimm: What @Ruskie_it said. The JB is NOT a real update package, it should never trigger an update or a reboot if done properly (and run on a supported FW version). The bridge, on the other hand, is a real update package. Trying to do both at the same time will only confuse you and the system.

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11-28-2014, 06:05 PM	#1395
alaskazimm Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 338 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Western Alaska Device: Kindle Paperwhite PW5, Kobo Clara Colour	Thank you NiLuJe and Ruskie_it. That makes sense; I think I'm all straight on that now.