Touch Looks like a new nook is on the way...

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by varelov

The way the store employee at the Nook stand explained to me this afternoon, you'll get all your books on the new device once you register it with your account credentials. And this was exactly to protect customers from loss of their eBook libraries when the device gets damaged.

Yes, the nooks have always worked this way. But if this was about my "damaged" statement, I was talking about the nook shelves. I have 300 books on B&N. Currently, I could put them all on shelves on my N1 (this would take MANY hours of work), but the minute the device breaks, the work is all gone because the shelving metadata is stored on the device only.

Originally Posted by JohnnyRocks

Yes, except some things are not subjective. Like it or not, the touch screen is an upgrade in terms of hardware. Again, whether or not you use it is up to you, however, the upgrade is there for you.

And, I keep forgetting to mention the LOOOONNNNGGG claimed battery life, or is that also of no importance?

It's not an upgrade if you hate touch screens and it can't be turned off. Again, this is subjective. I have cats. They walk on my N1 while reading. Someone who doesn't want a touch screen, period, isn't going to consider "oh, it's there, I just won't use it" as a feature.

Also, if you're going to be upset about fanboi behavior, I feel I should point out that the LOOOOOONG battery life is - based on what I understand of the math - a match to the current Kindle, not better.

[jersysman]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Also, if you're going to be upset about fanboi behavior, I feel I should point out that the LOOOOOONG battery life is - based on what I understand of the math - a match to the current Kindle, not better.

Actually if you read this article, you will see a better explanation on the battery battle between Kindle and the Nook 2.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/25/b...calls-out-kin/

I got this off of another thread here (thanks boswd). This article based the battery life on page turns.

Also, I read some of the replies made on the forum there. Even during our worse discussions here on MR, we never got as low as some of the people did on that forum. It's crazy what people will say when hidden by the anonymity of the internet.

[OtterBooks]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRocks

Yes, except some things are not subjective. Like it or not, the touch screen is an upgrade in terms of hardware. Again, whether or not you use it is up to you, however, the upgrade is there for you. In addition, the processor is a HUGE upgrade over the Kindle. Neither of those two things are subjective.

I was under the impression that the new Nook still required some touch screen interaction for navigation/dictionary lookups. If not, that's awesome. If so, then it's not an upgrade so much as a function design difference, since some people do not like the idea of touching their ereader display. For them, not only is it not an upgrade, it's an imposition. The CPU is definitely an objective upgrade, and a big one imo. Nobody is gonna say "I prefer the slower CPU on my Kindle."

Thing is, people understand the back-and-forth of device releases. Few people want to jump back and forth between companies, buying a new device every 7-9 months.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Really the Nook, Kindle, Sony and Kobo all suck at organization to some degree (at least for how I'd like to use them with over 1,000 books). I really wish I could just copy my folders and sub folders over like I can on my Opus and browse them like I can on a computer.

I know, it kind of steams me that you can do something on an ancient DOS PC but you can't do it with a state of the art e-ink reader.

[toronado]

What I'd like to know is whether fingernail or fine-point stylus will work with the new Nook. Given that the Sony touch readers work with a stylus, and given that the new Nook also uses an IR system (albeit zForce as opposed to Sony's Neonode), one might hope it would be possible.

[JohnnyRocks]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Yes, the nooks have always worked this way. But if this was about my "damaged" statement, I was talking about the nook shelves. I have 300 books on B&N. Currently, I could put them all on shelves on my N1 (this would take MANY hours of work), but the minute the device breaks, the work is all gone because the shelving metadata is stored on the device only.



It's not an upgrade if you hate touch screens and it can't be turned off. Again, this is subjective. I have cats. They walk on my N1 while reading. Someone who doesn't want a touch screen, period, isn't going to consider "oh, it's there, I just won't use it" as a feature.

Also, if you're going to be upset about fanboi behavior, I feel I should point out that the LOOOOOONG battery life is - based on what I understand of the math - a match to the current Kindle, not better.

That's absurd. That's like saying that the calculator isn't an upgrade over the slide rule, cause you aren't planning on using it. There's a reason they are all going to be going to touch screens and that tablets are all touch screens. And, the fact that you don't use it likely means you have never tried one of the later iterations (the Sony x50 series), cause had you tried them, you would see the obvious benefits.

Either way, it's upgraded technology, period. That's not even debatable. Whether or not you use or see value in it has nothing to do with whether or not it's an upgrade. You do also recognize that the processor is a HUGE upgrade over the Kindle one, right?

And, again, those who see it as an imposition clearly have not used one for an extended period of time, as there is nothing you can't do on a touch screen that you can do on a Kindle. And, you can do it significantly easier (dictionary lookups, note taking, etc). I suspect those who don't want one think that it will leave fingerprints, etc, which is simply not the case. There is NO difference in clarity (in direct sunlight or otherwise).

And, we can agree to disagree on the point of whether you call it an upgrade or not. And, while some on here might find it a nuissance, the VAST majority will consider it an upgrade (there's a reason that they are all going to be going to it, including, likely, the Kindle).

[JohnnyRocks]

By the way, I have 3 dogs (2 huge ones and a small one) inside the house. They shed ALOT and, there has yet to be a problem with my PRS-350. Almost certainly, those bashing the newest iterations of touch screens on ereaders are thinking that they are similar to touch screens on tablets, and nothing could be further from the truth.

And, from what I understand the new Nook leaves the page turn buttons intact, which gives you the option of using them if you don't like the touch screen option. Not sure what the problem is, given that fact (something the Kobo didn't do, by the way).

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by boswd

if the new nook has the same organization as the nook color then they will no longer be two libraries. They did an nice job of merging the two into one. and in it's last update it now included your sideloaded books to be added on the home pages as well.

they listened to that complain and acknowledged it.

I was so glad that they did that for the NC. It might just be me, but the Touch's interface looks very similar to the Color's and it wouldn't surprise me if it were.

[Bookworm_Girl]

Originally Posted by toronado

What I'd like to know is whether fingernail or fine-point stylus will work with the new Nook. Given that the Sony touch readers work with a stylus, and given that the new Nook also uses an IR system (albeit zForce as opposed to Sony's Neonode), one might hope it would be possible.

Based on my experience with the Sony, I think there should be no reason why you could not use either your finger or a stylus on the Nook Touch.

My cat has helped turn the page on my Sony by the motion of her ear while sitting in my lap. There are lengthy threads on the Sony forum about flies and food crumbs turning pages too.

[SCION]

Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

...There are lengthy threads on the Sony forum about flies and food crumbs turning pages too.

Those pesty crumbs. I recall several posts about screens no longer responding because of them.

[JohnnyRocks]

Originally Posted by SCION

Those pesty crumbs. I recall several posts about screens no longer responding because of them.

Again, simple common sense care goes a LONG way. I do NOT treat my reader gently by any means, but, I don't know if I'm eating over it, dropping crumbs on it, and allowing my 150 pound dogs (or for that matter, my 35 pound one), to walk on it.

Simple common sense, folks. Simple common sense.

[Asawi]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRocks

And, we can agree to disagree on the point of whether you call it an upgrade or not. And, while some on here might find it a nuissance, the VAST majority will consider it an upgrade (there's a reason that they are all going to be going to it, including, likely, the Kindle).

Oh, rest assured that when Amazon introduces it's Touch version later this year (or whenever it will happen, c'mon, we all know it will happen), the Kindlers will be thrilled and all of a sudden it's the best thing since sliced bread!

[jersysman]

Originally Posted by Asawi

Oh, rest assured that when Amazon introduces it's Touch version later this year (or whenever it will happen, c'mon, we all know it will happen), the Kindlers will be thrilled and all of a sudden it's the best thing since sliced bread!

+1 Amen

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRocks

Again, simple common sense care goes a LONG way. I do NOT treat my reader gently by any means, but, I don't know if I'm eating over it, dropping crumbs on it, and allowing my 150 pound dogs (or for that matter, my 35 pound one), to walk on it.

Simple common sense, folks. Simple common sense.

Gosh, life must be simple when you don't have cats or children.

Remember that article a few years back where a guy realized his ear was totally clogged up with superglue because his kid was putting superglue in his ears while he slept?

[JohnnyRocks]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Gosh, life must be simple when you don't have cats or children.

Remember that article a few years back where a guy realized his ear was totally clogged up with superglue because his kid was putting superglue in his ears while he slept?

Life is simple when you are able to employ some semblance of common sense. Don't pretent please, that you know ANYTHING about me, beyond what I've cared to share in this thread. Because, quite obviously, you don't. I have two children (so you were wrong in your assumption). A 3 year old and a 9 month old, and, 3 dogs that shed heavily. And, again, it's not a problem for me. I have an idea, how about you just not buy anything that involves a touch screen? We'll see how many options are left to you in the next 12 months, when Amazon goes to a touch screen as well.

Of course you are probably of the opinion that even tablets should never have implemented touch screens opting instead, for physical keyboards. LOL. Get a clue.