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Old 06-18-2010, 06:30 PM   #106
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Defining a word as belonging to one language only and refusing to allow migration of words is not a bit narrow-minded. Am I wrong?
No, you are not wrong in this case. But the reason for rejecting this word mostly stems from the fact that it doesn't have a definition that fits.
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No, you are not wrong in this case. But the reason for rejecting this word mostly stems from the fact that it doesn't have a definition that fits.
Even if it's true, what does it matter? Loaned words change meaning all the time. You'd have thought that as a native greek speaker, for example, I'd have a head start when learning English, as a big part of your words are actually greek. But no, you use most of them wrong (from a Greek's point of view). You have changed their definitions, and that's okay, because languages are evolving. If you don't care that a sycophant in english is the opposite of the original greek word, to name just one example, what do you care what liseuse means or doesn't mean in french? Especially as the french themselves don't seem to mind.
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:48 PM   #108
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The term used mostly is eBook (note the capital B). ....
Why note the capital B? Words don't have capitals in the middle of them, unless they are brandnames. If ebook is to be used as a proper word, it has to be ebook or e-book. How are you going to start a sentence with eBook? EBook?
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The amount of pedantic-anal retentiveness on this thread is amazing. Are Native English users going to stop using the words grammar, defecate, and touche because there is a different definition from the original language or the bastardization into English is incorrect?

As a native English speaker who does speak French, I do not see the big deal with using it. Plus, all of the complaining against the word makes me want to actually support it, whereas before I could care less. So, count me in for supporting the liseuse
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I don't know French, so this word may fit perfectly there. But in English it doesn't fit and sounds bad, at least in my opinion.
it in fact fits perfect, since it could be translated as "czytnica"

p.s. może dlatego instynktownie nie lubisz, bo akustycznie kojarzy się z negatywnie konnotowanym słowem "lizus"

@ all: in fact all remains the same, i.e. the terms ar coined, in the language which is the mostly understood by the siencists/creators or a specific branch of them, therefor

latin/greek is the source of termini technici for most of them and the argument you watch your movies on television instead of movie player and use a telephon(e) for audiocomm. the words ARE descriptive when the etymology is traced. (cf. also 'helicopter)

the dominance of said languages derives from the fact, that most of the libraries ( -> bibliotheka) was composed in this languages at first and scientists used tham as lingua franca.
the english dominance there came with computing.

italian was as long the techspeak of musical artists, as long as they haven't been replaced - now we have "retards with soundcards" and no more need for the musical theory termini - BPM seems to be sufficient
The same for all the terminology about the art of dancing, since it has been replaced by "performing" i.e. faking an epileptical attack on stage...

french is apart for having deliverd the nomenclature for playing cards the lingua franca of postage affairs.

as far as using brands places of origin or inventors' name for the item this practice isn't new either:

(fr) montgolfiere (baloon)
(pl) rower (make a guess which company made bicycles)
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biro
Xerox

so all remains as usual...
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Although I love the term "ebook", it can't possible be correct because the MobileRead spell-checker always sticks that wavy red line of death beneath it.

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I'm wondering about that spellchecker! It's trying to convince me to use american spelling...
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Are Native English users going to stop using the words grammar, defecate, and touche because there is a different definition from the original language or the bastardization into English is incorrect?...
My Grammer was a defecate little flower of a woman who lent a gentle touche to everything she did.

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Names made of two or more words are typical of the original American tradition. My name is Puts His Foot In Soup.

I know a guy on this thread whose tribal name is Speaks With Forked Tongue. And an other one called Nice Guy With Nothing Up There.

One among us was called Kick My Ass I Like It. That has to be declined: when some one speaks/writes of him it is Kick His Ass He Likes It. When he speaks/writes of himself it is Kick My Ass I Like It. When he or some one else speaks/writes to him is Kick Your Ass You Like It. (You Likes It in rural regions like Arkanso).

So what's wrong with Reads eBooks Without DRM? or Loves Liseueses?

I love my liseuse. May I suggest LECTOR ? Or even more evocative Lektor. Perfekt for modern gotik.
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The spell checker is in your browser, not the forum software.
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No good-- brings to mind cannibalistic sociopaths.
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Imagine powering up your ...... reader and hearing that smooth voice purr "Hello Clarice" "What are you reading today?"
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