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As for p assing 0.2em space between paragraphs is really annoying. You do not see this done in pBooks (paper books). It's best you not have any excess space between normal paragraphs. When you set the text justification for most of the eBook, just put test-align: justify; in the body style. That way Readers and programs that can override this will work. You can still center as needed. But don't forget a text-indent: 0; with the center code. |
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So it's agreed—a full inch on each side?
![]() Okay. That's three votes for "0"; the people have spoken. Thanks, guys/gals. Much appreciated. P.S. I've seen where some printed books add paragraph spacing. Similarly, it was also more traditional to add space on both sides of an em space, like this: wurdz(space)—(space)more wurdz as opposed to—this crowded crap. I use the space because I think it's tidier; it breathes better. It actually looks like someone's trying to say something that's separate from the main text. Point: all kinds of ways to do stuff out there. But I agree that a simple css convention will probably do my ebooks a world of good. |
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The only issue I have with adding space around an em dash is the one I encounter here on this forum where an asterisk is added instead of the last space, or in SIGIL where it adds code for a no break space.
That alone warrants taking a second look at using em dash spacing for ebooks. But in print —*I must insist. ![]() |
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don't forget, eReading devices are not the Robert Oppenheimers of the rendering world. They render top-down, left-right (in the Eurocentric world, anyway). They don't "know" that an emdash shouldn't just start a new line, or this or that. So, you typically want to anchor it somehow. Don't anchor it with a non-breaking space, because in the eBook world, a non-breaking space is like a train schedule in Mexico--it's a suggestion, not a rule. We anchor our emdashes and hellips (and for those customers that make me want to scream, the nbsp-dot-nbsp-dot-nbsp-dot) to the PRECEDING word, and use a space after to facilitate an attempt at decent typography. Hitch |
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Also US style—an aside—in the sentence, em dashes with no spaces
UK/IRL style – an aside – in the sentence (en dashes spaced, but em used at end of sentences to show interruption, especially in dialogue with no spaces). On websites or paper I might use non-breaking spaces, or partial size spaces, but not in ebooks. I do use … character not . . . (triple periods with or without spaces, ideally smaller width, which only works reliably on paper) in ebooks. I've seen every sort of madness, often inconsistently in the same book, so we have our own set of rules. Other people are free to use their own rules or any of the published style guides, except every published style guide I've seen is for paper. Also the US rules might seem odd to right-side-of-pond readers and vice versa, especially when local spelling is used. Last edited by Quoth; 04-18-2022 at 03:43 PM. |
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One of my all time favourites for inconsistency happens when an omnibus has different styles for each book in the omnibus. It doesn't take that much effort to diff the stylesheets and then make them consistent across all the books.
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Yes, that's mad. Either laziness, incompetence or a bit of both.
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This reminds me of a series I'm reading right now. It's driving me bats**t. It's the Barker & Llewellyn series, right? Done by Touchstone--a real publisher--which is an S&S imprint. Simon & Schuster, for crying out loud!
And what to my wondering eyes should appear? But first-line indent, SPACE BETWEEN paragraphs, in so far, 3 of the 4 books I've bought. Not all of them, mind you--book 2 had proper formatting. But the other 3? And it's absolutely infuriating. It's so distracting!!! And irritating and infuriating. /grumble /rant. Hitch |
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But that is purely your own preference and opinion. If you were formatting ebooks in a publishing business you'd have to apply the house rules.
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