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Old 01-16-2010, 03:24 PM   #10696
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Old 01-16-2010, 06:13 PM   #10698
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If you're a big fan of the original stories like your husband, this movie will annoy the hell out of you from about the first minute onwards. There are some great twists on the Holmes mythology that build upon or veer away from Holmes, especially in movies. Without a Clue is a great one, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother another, and my all-time favourite 'They Might Be Giants'. This new iteration is just an action movie that has borrowed the names for 'brand recognition'.
One of my favorite SH movies that deviates considerably from the books is The Seven Percent Solution. In this case, I believe it is the die-hard Holmes fans who know the mythology who most appreciate the deviations; even if only as a "what if" type of scenario. The movie and the book were both wonderfully crafted. The line at the end as Holmes is preparing for an extended time away was wonderful. Watson demands to know how he should explain Holmes' absence to his readers, only to be told by Holmes to tell them he was killed by Professor Moriarty. After all, said Holmes, the readers will never believe him anyhow. Only people familiar with the books can truly appreciate a line like that.
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Just got in from an observing session. I still have to carry the scope back in. Pity I have to go to work tomorrow otherwise I would have stuck around to try to get a better view of Mars. Currently it's just too low with the atmosphere causing havoc.

The Orion Nebula, 47 Tuc and Carina Nebula were stunning as usual and well worth the effort. Now to get the 10" beast back inside...
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:53 PM   #10702
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Just got in from an observing session. I still have to carry the scope back in. Pity I have to go to work tomorrow otherwise I would have stuck around to try to get a better view of Mars. Currently it's just too low with the atmosphere causing havoc.

The Orion Nebula, 47 Tuc and Carina Nebula were stunning as usual and well worth the effort. Now to get the 10" beast back inside...
That sounds awesome! Wish I had some telescope savvy :P
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That sounds awesome! Wish I had some telescope savvy :P
Be careful what you wish for. I started out with the 10" in 2008 as "my first and only scope"... Fast forward, and I currently have 3 scopes in the harem, not to mention the accessories and eyepieces. Once you're hooked it can become an expensive hobby... Beware aperture fever!
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Currently wondering why I bothered watching Sherlock Holmes, or any other recent Hollywood movie. It was 'meh' at best, just another flashy, ridiculous story about super-humans, but this time they didn't have uniforms. There was a list somewhere online the other day of the 24 MUST-SEE movies of this year -- I wanted to watch 2 of them.
ugh! what a dissapointment! at least it was better than "Men Who Stare at Goats"!

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Well here's my opinion, and I'm not a massive Holmes fan although I do love the Basil Rathbone movies; this could have been a story about anybody. Downey is good, Jude Law is good, but this wasn't Sherlock Holmes. In this version Holmes is a dangerously erratic, mentally ill, pugilist with a crush on Watson. Watson is, well, blank and doesn't have much character at all throughout the film. The story is flimsy at best, and the CSI-like crash-zooms into flashbacks and flash-forwards are annoying as hell. All of this takes place in a CGI London more fake than any I've seen before.
but Holmes is quite often portrayed as a dangerously erratic mentally ill individual. I think there was always the suggestion of "man crushes" in Conan Doyles works. as I recall, in the original stories, wasn't there only one even mere hint of a romantic liasion between Holmes and a woman?
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I believe I read it years ago. I just put it in my folder of things to import into my Kindle.

I have given too much thought to that subject for years. Some mighty interesting problems arise.

1. Superman flies through the heart of the sun and remarks, "That tickles!" If a nuclear inferno only registers as a tickle on his Kryptonian skin, how is an ordinary woman suppose satisfy him physically?

2. Kryptonian muscles. In one comic in the 50s, Superman blows out a star with his super-lungs. Other muscles are not so easily controlled at certain peak moments. How does Lois' head stay on?

3. How did Ma and Paw Kent explain the "bullet holes" in Clark's bedroom ceiling to visitors?

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but Holmes is quite often portrayed as a dangerously erratic mentally ill individual. I think there was always the suggestion of "man crushes" in Conan Doyles works. as I recall, in the original stories, wasn't there only one even mere hint of a romantic liasion between Holmes and a woman?
Watson was married several times in the course of the books, but not Holmes. There was only one hint of a possible hint of anything remotely approaching a hint of romantic thought in Holmes mind, and that was the phrase from 'A Scandal in Bohemia': "To Sherlock Holmes she is always THE woman." And that could have been more of a sign of respect on his part.

I don't know if Holmes was gay, but I don't believe he liked women very much. I guess only Sir A.C. Dolye knew for sure. I suspect Holmes was asexual.

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Watson was married several times in the course of the books, but not Holmes. There was only one hint of a possible hint of anything remotely approaching a romantic thought in Holmes mind, and that was the phrase from 'A Scandal in Bohemia': "To Sherlock Holmes she is always THE woman." And that could have been more of a sign of respect on his part.

I don't know if Holmes was gay, but I don't believe he liked women very much. I guess only Sir A.C. Dolye knew for sure. I suspect Holmes was asexual.
"like I know!!!" she says petulantly! I said a hint!!! sheesh!!!! I think it was one of the first man crushes in Western Lit. just written well
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