Opus Cybook Opus? - Page 6

captaingeorges · 07-31-2009, 11:57 AM

But what about all my legally bought books???? I do not think that there is a legal way to convert them. And if my Cybook croaks in a few years, all those books are gone ????

So in 2 years time, when something better than ePub comes along (Please please I don't want to insult anybody...) Will I have to buy my books a third time...

I made a decision to go digital, I stand by it, but I want my ebooks to stand the test of time... Like my paperbooks did!

Regards,

Georges

wallcraft · 07-31-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by captaingeorges

But what about all my legally bought books???? I do not think that there is a legal way to convert them. And if my Cybook croaks in a few years, all those books are gone ????

Canada does not have an anti-circumvention law, so it may be legal in Canada to strip DRM and format shift ebooks you own for personal use.

Jellby · 08-01-2009, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

Canada does not have an anti-circumvention law, so it may be legal in Canada to strip DRM and format shift ebooks you own for personal use.

Do you have to be in Canada or is it enough to do it remotely on a Canadian machine?

EowynCarter · 08-01-2009, 06:03 AM

Welll, firsts impresion.

Having Twice the ram and twice the proc helps !
Naruto's scantrads seams more readable without zoom. (I think the screen have a bettter resolution. Wanna display to same image on both.)

Oh, linux display the opus as gen 3.

Edit : Well, no, but the opus being smaller and lighter, you can lift it closer more easily.
And the opus succeeded in opening a Pdf ok when gen 3 get so sluggish it's not usable.
Well, it get ok after the really long loading. Not sure if the update changed something or not.

Right, now i need to update calibre.

Did you had one of the bookeen's bag shipped with the opus ?

Godzil · 08-01-2009, 02:12 PM

I doubt that calibre is able to detect an opus until the author have one opus in hands...

EowynCarter · 08-01-2009, 02:20 PM

Kovid did try to have calibre detecting the opus. Trouble being said opus identifying itself as Gen3...

Godzil · 08-01-2009, 02:25 PM

Identifying as a Gen3? what do you mean by this? The USB PID/VID? If this is that, I think they do this to allow the use of mobipocket Desktop who identify the Gen3 with these informations...

EowynCarter · 08-01-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzil

Identifying as a Gen3? what do you mean by this? The USB PID/VID? If this is that, I think they do this to allow the use of mobipocket Desktop who identify the Gen3 with these informations...

I think that's it.
Also , when i pluged the opus, disks where labeled "gen3"

JSWolf · 08-01-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzil

It will be able to do mobipocket as the Gen3 will. They will release a Mobipocket firmware, it just not ready, but it will come really soon.

But by the time they do, you'll already have ePub books so why then would you want to swap firmware?

kovidgoyal · 08-01-2009, 03:22 PM

Actually as of 0.6.4 calibre should be smart enough to detect the Opus even though its VID/PID is the same as the Gen3, at least on windows and OS X

Godzil · 08-01-2009, 03:23 PM

How do you do this? But I don't try the latest version, do you now allow ePub export for the Gen3/Opus? (it was not possible on the 0.5.X branch)

By the way even if I don't like the Calibre GUI, it's too much Linuxish and strange for me, it is anyway a really good product, thanks for it

kovidgoyal · 08-01-2009, 03:38 PM

EPUB export for the gen3/opus has been supported in all 0.6.x releases. Although the PID is the same for the OPUS and GEN3 the product name string is not. That is what is used.

EowynCarter · 08-01-2009, 03:39 PM

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But by the time they do, you'll already have ePub books so why then would you want to swap firmware?

Well, the french publisher made my choice easy. ePub it will be.
Mobi firmware will be there the the people wanting folders and stuff but not wanting to switch. Would be lame from bookeen to tell "you want new features ? convert all your ebooks."
Mobi for Opus is there beccasue it son't cost that much, and the peaple already owing prc book won't have trouble to convert. (calibre's having a hard time with my books right now !)

And i realised that i didn't had a backup of all my books. I need to be more careful with that !

mgmueller · 08-03-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by captaingeorges

But what about all my legally bought books???? I do not think that there is a legal way to convert them. And if my Cybook croaks in a few years, all those books are gone ????

So in 2 years time, when something better than ePub comes along (Please please I don't want to insult anybody...) Will I have to buy my books a third time...

I made a decision to go digital, I stand by it, but I want my ebooks to stand the test of time... Like my paperbooks did!

Regards,

Georges

It may not be legal NOW, to strip your legally purchased books off DRM.
There's huge confusion around that issue, I hear various points of view.
BUT: If your actual provider, be it the webshop which sold the books to you or be it your reader's manufacturer, should cease business, I guess the situation is differently:
a.) The legal situation should be different, as the legal party holding a contract with you doesn't exist anymore.
b.) "No harm, no foul". When they cease business, who should make you any trouble?

So: As long as you've got support, there's no actual need for stripping DRM. You can read the books the way it was intended.
If you don't have support anymore, you can strip off DRM and port your books to whatever unit or format you choose then.
I still wouldn't talk to openly about it. But in case of a lawsuit, you'd have pretty strong arguments.

EowynCarter · 08-03-2009, 07:51 AM

Stripping DRM off book so I can read them -> ok.
Stripping DRM off book to put them on Torrent -> Not ok.

08-01-2009, 06:03 AM	#79
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,334 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Welll, firsts impresion. Having Twice the ram and twice the proc helps ! Naruto's scantrads seams more readable without zoom. (I think the screen have a bettter resolution. Wanna display to same image on both.) Oh, linux display the opus as gen 3. Edit : Well, no, but the opus being smaller and lighter, you can lift it closer more easily. And the opus succeeded in opening a Pdf ok when gen 3 get so sluggish it's not usable. Well, it get ok after the really long loading. Not sure if the update changed something or not. Right, now i need to update calibre. Did you had one of the bookeen's bag shipped with the opus ? Last edited by EowynCarter; 08-01-2009 at 07:39 AM.

08-01-2009, 03:23 PM	#86
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	How do you do this? But I don't try the latest version, do you now allow ePub export for the Gen3/Opus? (it was not possible on the 0.5.X branch) By the way even if I don't like the Calibre GUI, it's too much Linuxish and strange for me, it is anyway a really good product, thanks for it Last edited by Godzil; 08-01-2009 at 03:26 PM.

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07-31-2009, 11:57 AM	#76
captaingeorges Zealot Posts: 125 Karma: 594 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Isle-aux-Grues, Qc, Canada Device: Cybook, Iphone32g, ipad, Kobo	But what about all my legally bought books???? I do not think that there is a legal way to convert them. And if my Cybook croaks in a few years, all those books are gone ???? So in 2 years time, when something better than ePub comes along (Please please I don't want to insult anybody...) Will I have to buy my books a third time... I made a decision to go digital, I stand by it, but I want my ebooks to stand the test of time... Like my paperbooks did! Regards, Georges

08-01-2009, 02:12 PM	#80
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	I doubt that calibre is able to detect an opus until the author have one opus in hands...

08-01-2009, 02:20 PM	#81
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,334 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Kovid did try to have calibre detecting the opus. Trouble being said opus identifying itself as Gen3...

08-01-2009, 02:25 PM	#82
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	Identifying as a Gen3? what do you mean by this? The USB PID/VID? If this is that, I think they do this to allow the use of mobipocket Desktop who identify the Gen3 with these informations...

08-01-2009, 03:22 PM	#85
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,028 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Actually as of 0.6.4 calibre should be smart enough to detect the Opus even though its VID/PID is the same as the Gen3, at least on windows and OS X

08-01-2009, 03:38 PM	#87
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,028 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	EPUB export for the gen3/opus has been supported in all 0.6.x releases. Although the PID is the same for the OPUS and GEN3 the product name string is not. That is what is used.

08-03-2009, 07:51 AM	#90
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,334 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Stripping DRM off book so I can read them -> ok. Stripping DRM off book to put them on Torrent -> Not ok.

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