Anyone got their new Sage yet? - Page 5

meeera · 10-22-2021, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gigapoctopus

I was also talking with goodereader staff on this and they told me: "Kobo told me that you can’t write in sideloaded ebooks, they only work with KEPUB, which is kobos proprietary ebook format for DRM files. "

Since you can sideload kepubs, DRM-free, I'm not sure this statement makes any kind of sense.

gigapoctopus · 10-22-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by meeera

Since you can sideload kepubs, DRM-free, I'm not sure this statement makes any kind of sense.

I thought the same...

Joliet Jake · 10-22-2021, 01:26 PM

There's at least two ways to sideload Kepubs, so Good Ereader's statement isn't helpful. (Standard Ebooks lets you legally download old and free books, including in Kepub format. If you use Kobo Touch Extended, you turn Epubs into Kepubs when you put them onto an ereader.) I'm sure someone here can tell me other ways to do so.

I think Good Ereader is implying you can only write on "official" Kepubs from the Kobo store, but some books are sold there without DRM. Giganticoctopus did testing, and it seems the book requires DRM if you want to write on it.

jiminrussell · 10-22-2021, 08:01 PM

Still waiting for my Sage to be delivered here, but as it is now nearly 8PM on a Friday I don't expect it to be delivered until Monday or Tuesday next week. Oddly or perhaps not considering this is Kobo, the Kobo web site says my Sage has been delivered, yet Canada Post says it is still in Montreal where it has been sitting since 9:21 AM on Tuesday! As it happens I will be out of town next week so the earliest I will see my Sage is likely Nov. 1 when I get back home.

Also just got email from Kobo that my Sage has shipped and that the cover will be delayed by a week. I'm not sure why they couldn't have sent that email when they shipped the Sage 4 days ago, but this is typical of Kobo shipping as the exact same thing happened with delivery of the Elipsa earlier this year. I shouldn't have expected any different this time around.

I love my Kobo devices but Kobo, why oh why do you still use Canada Post for deliveries?

Deobulakenyo · 10-22-2021, 08:04 PM

Does Kobo Canada online store charge taxes for a purchase on top of the srp?

davidfor · 10-22-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

There's at least two ways to sideload Kepubs, so Good Ereader's statement isn't helpful. (Standard Ebooks lets you legally download old and free books, including in Kepub format. If you use Kobo Touch Extended, you turn Epubs into Kepubs when you put them onto an ereader.) I'm sure someone here can tell me other ways to do so.

I think Good Ereader is implying you can only write on "official" Kepubs from the Kobo store, but some books are sold there without DRM. Giganticoctopus did testing, and it seems the book requires DRM if you want to write on it.

Strictly, Kobo does not support sideloading kepubs. At least not for everyday use. The only reference to sideloading as kepub is in the guide for preparing books for the Kobo store. And that is just about helping to see what the book will look like. There is no reference to adding the spans that are needed for them to work properly. Or any other reference buy Kobo to support the format. They do work, and I don't think actual support will be removed. But, it wouldn't surprise me if the main reason it works is because the actual developers want it (makes some testing easier).

For annotations using the stylus, Kobo stated with the Elipsa that it would work with sideloaded epubs and PDFs. No mention of kepubs was made. I don't know if that was a deliberate choice or something missed somewhere. That it is not working for epubs with firmware 4.29.18730 on the Sage, is an error. Or at least, that is the feedback I have from Kobo.

MGlitch · 10-22-2021, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jiminrussell

Still waiting for my Sage to be delivered here, but as it is now nearly 8PM on a Friday I don't expect it to be delivered until Monday or Tuesday next week. Oddly or perhaps not considering this is Kobo, the Kobo web site says my Sage has been delivered, yet Canada Post says it is still in Montreal where it has been sitting since 9:21 AM on Tuesday! As it happens I will be out of town next week so the earliest I will see my Sage is likely Nov. 1 when I get back home.

Also just got email from Kobo that my Sage has shipped and that the cover will be delayed by a week. I'm not sure why they couldn't have sent that email when they shipped the Sage 4 days ago, but this is typical of Kobo shipping as the exact same thing happened with delivery of the Elipsa earlier this year. I shouldn't have expected any different this time around.

I love my Kobo devices but Kobo, why oh why do you still use Canada Post for deliveries?

The website is misleading. The “delivered” bit is (I believe) meant to be a progress bar of it being delivered. If you look I’d bet that the arrows on the right side aren’t filled in.

gigapoctopus · 10-23-2021, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by davidfor

Strictly, Kobo does not support sideloading kepubs. At least not for everyday use. The only reference to sideloading as kepub is in the guide for preparing books for the Kobo store. And that is just about helping to see what the book will look like. There is no reference to adding the spans that are needed for them to work properly. Or any other reference buy Kobo to support the format. They do work, and I don't think actual support will be removed. But, it wouldn't surprise me if the main reason it works is because the actual developers want it (makes some testing easier).

For annotations using the stylus, Kobo stated with the Elipsa that it would work with sideloaded epubs and PDFs. No mention of kepubs was made. I don't know if that was a deliberate choice or something missed somewhere. That it is not working for epubs with firmware 4.29.18730 on the Sage, is an error. Or at least, that is the feedback I have from Kobo.

Kobo does state that kepubs will work with both Elipsa and Sage at https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/artic...th-Kobo-Stylus

"While reading, you can write and highlight on the page just like a real book. For example, you can write on the margins and circle key words.

Note: Kobo Stylus only works with Kobo Sage and Kobo Elipsa.

Supported file types
You can use your Kobo Stylus to write notes on these files:

Kobo ePub (.kepub)
ePub (.epub)
PDF (.pdf)

Note :Your Kobo Stylus cannot write notes on DRM-Protected PDF files and PDF files that disables annotations and markups.

"

Josieb1 · 10-23-2021, 05:47 AM

I’ve ordered the Black SleepCover now too. I thought the Black might age better than the Light Green. I don’t like the light grey inner but I’m worried about not having a case.

davidfor · 10-23-2021, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gigapoctopus

Kobo does state that kepubs will work with both Elipsa and Sage at https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/artic...th-Kobo-Stylus

"While reading, you can write and highlight on the page just like a real book. For example, you can write on the margins and circle key words.

Note: Kobo Stylus only works with Kobo Sage and Kobo Elipsa.

Supported file types
You can use your Kobo Stylus to write notes on these files:

Kobo ePub (.kepub)
ePub (.epub)
PDF (.pdf)

Note :Your Kobo Stylus cannot write notes on DRM-Protected PDF files and PDF files that disables annotations and markups.

"

The problem with that is that if you try to sideload a book with the extension ".kepub", it will be ignored. You need to have ".kepub.epub". And when you download a kepub from their server, it does not have an extension.

If you look at the specs for the device, it has:

Quote:

15 file formats supported natively (EPUB, EPUB3, FlePub, PDF, MOBI, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, TIFF, TXT, HTML, RTF, CBZ, CBR)

And I've always thought it was fun that Kobo ePubs are not mentioned. Which means they don't support their own format. But, I think it is supposed to mean what formats can be sideloaded.

From this, there is either a mistake in the guide where someone added "(.kepub"), or a bug in the firmware that is not handling that as an extension. If the latter, it has been that way for a long time. To my mind it is the documentation. None of the extensions should have been included above. They are not needed and, as we can see, just confuse things.

anacreon · 10-23-2021, 06:12 AM

I just got a message from Fnac (France) that the Sage was waiting for me. I received an email with the invoice yesterday, so I thought it might be arriving soon, but I am surprised that it has not been debited yet. Perhaps because the cover is not available yet. No problem since my next holidays will be in January.

John Hopper · 10-23-2021, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I’ve ordered the Black SleepCover now too. I thought the Black might age better than the Light Green. I don’t like the light grey inner but I’m worried about not having a case.

Hi Josie, I went for the green one, as I like a more colourful cover. Still no news on mine, still showing as processed.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

Josieb1 · 10-23-2021, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John Hopper

Hi Josie, I went for the green one, as I like a more colourful cover. Still no news on mine, still showing as processed.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

The Light Green is nice, I was debating over which colour to go for. I keep checking status on mine but tbh I’m not expecting any quick shipments.

I paid with a credit card and have been debited so it’s paid for.

Liesse · 10-23-2021, 06:59 AM

I ordered a Libra 2 and cover from Kobo UK on the 20th, after seeing the first impressions here, thank you. Apologies for polluting the Sage order thread.

It will be my Christmas present from my husband, who I frankly didn't trust to get the order right. I'd have ended up with the libra original or some other inferior product from a Kobo competitor had I left it up to him to order.

You can't risk these important things going wrong, can you? I mean, it's one thing when I ask him to get frozen breaded chicken for tea and he comes back with diced fresh; this is a whole other league.

Just as John and Josie have reported I've seen no movement on the order yet. It shows confirmation on the Kobo website and they have taken the money according to online banking.

Deobulakenyo · 10-23-2021, 07:24 AM

To all those posting late deliveries here, did you order from rakuten kobo (online) in canada? The reason i asked is becausr i intend to order from the canada store since it will be a bit cheaer (better exchange rate for our Peso currency) than the US dollar if i were to order from amazon.

10-22-2021, 01:26 PM	#63
Joliet Jake Zealot Posts: 110 Karma: 3098438 Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Sage	There's at least two ways to sideload Kepubs, so Good Ereader's statement isn't helpful. (Standard Ebooks lets you legally download old and free books, including in Kepub format. If you use Kobo Touch Extended, you turn Epubs into Kepubs when you put them onto an ereader.) I'm sure someone here can tell me other ways to do so. I think Good Ereader is implying you can only write on "official" Kepubs from the Kobo store, but some books are sold there without DRM. Giganticoctopus did testing, and it seems the book requires DRM if you want to write on it. Last edited by Joliet Jake; 10-22-2021 at 01:29 PM.

10-22-2021, 08:01 PM	#64
jiminrussell JimInRussell Posts: 355 Karma: 143302 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Russell Ontario Canada Device: kobo Aura One, Forma, Elipsa, Sage	Still waiting for my Sage to be delivered here, but as it is now nearly 8PM on a Friday I don't expect it to be delivered until Monday or Tuesday next week. Oddly or perhaps not considering this is Kobo, the Kobo web site says my Sage has been delivered, yet Canada Post says it is still in Montreal where it has been sitting since 9:21 AM on Tuesday! As it happens I will be out of town next week so the earliest I will see my Sage is likely Nov. 1 when I get back home. Also just got email from Kobo that my Sage has shipped and that the cover will be delayed by a week. I'm not sure why they couldn't have sent that email when they shipped the Sage 4 days ago, but this is typical of Kobo shipping as the exact same thing happened with delivery of the Elipsa earlier this year. I shouldn't have expected any different this time around. I love my Kobo devices but Kobo, why oh why do you still use Canada Post for deliveries? Last edited by jiminrussell; 10-22-2021 at 08:06 PM.

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