Interface language

[tshering]

Originally Posted by surquizu

Hi Tshering,

Attached the file with the translation of text strings of firmware 3.15.0. And also I have prepared a test file to locate errors of context in translation.

thanks

There were some problems with the translation file. These problems were mostly related to upper case and lower case. You can find the modified translation file in the archive. I do not know how easy it is for you to read the new translation file back into your data base. In any case, I add some notes on what I changed. Originally I made these notes only for myself. Therefore, I am not sure how helpful they are.

As for the test file, I generated the translation strings with numbers myself, in order to avoid the need to apply the same changes as above.

[surquizu]

Originally Posted by tshering

There were some problems with the translation file. These problems were mostly related to upper case and lower case. You can find the modified translation file in the archive. I do not know how easy it is for you to read the new translation file back into your data base. In any case, I add some notes on what I changed. Originally I made these notes only for myself. Therefore, I am not sure how helpful they are.

As for the test file, I generated the translation strings with numbers myself, in order to avoid the need to apply the same changes as above.

Thank you.

Sorry for my errors, but the translation is very long...

I will testing the pach

[tshering]

Originally Posted by surquizu

Sorry for my errors, but the translation is very long...

No problem. Actually, I admire how nicely you manage this difficult task.

[MacEachaidh]

tshering and surquizu,
Thanks for this great thread. ;-)

I've been trying to play along at home, seeing what I could do about a translation into Gaelic. Not a chance, though, of fitting it into the text string limits. For instance, "books" in (Scots) Gaelic is leabharaichean. Not going to fit that onto a menu.

[surquizu]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

tshering and surquizu,
Thanks for this great thread. ;-)

I've been trying to play along at home, seeing what I could do about a translation into Gaelic. Not a chance, though, of fitting it into the text string limits. For instance, "books" in (Scots) Gaelic is leabharaichean. Not going to fit that onto a menu.

I have the same problem with some translations. I
translate with imagination. For example, also in Catalan the word "book" (llibre) is longer than in Spanish (libro) and I had to put as translation "ebook"

[MacEachaidh]

Hi surquizu, yes I noticed that you'd done that. Unfortunately, I think Gaelic would require so many language shortcuts to fit the menu spaces that there'd be barely any Gaelic left! (And I'm not sure what shortcuts I could even use in many of the contexts.)

Ah well. I'll keep thinking of options. Thanks for the reply.

[tshering]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

For instance, "books" in (Scots) Gaelic is leabharaichean. Not going to fit that onto a menu.

What an amazing word! I wonder how you could solve that problem.

[Jellby]

l12n

[tshering]

Originally Posted by Jellby

l12n

Very convenient for users with a lot of "imagination."

[Jellby]

If it were possible to change the UI font as well as the strings, one could create a custom font with "eabharaichea" in some private area codepoint, and use it; the same for other problematic languages.

[tshering]

Originally Posted by Jellby

If it were possible to change the UI font as well as the strings, one could create a custom font with "eabharaichea" in some private area codepoint, and use it; the same for other problematic languages.

Nice idea! I was considering something similar in connection with the Catalan combination "l·l". The problem is we currently do not know how to activate custom fonts without opening a book. This is a problem too for Chinese translations of the GUI.

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by tshering

What an amazing word! I wonder how you could solve that problem.

The idea of text strings embedded in a custom font is interesting (if, as you say, someone could crack a way of loading it in the UI rather than just in a book), but isn't there also the question of whether the display space in the pop-up menu frame would expand enough to include it?

In my case, I could perhaps use Leabhar, which is the word for a single book, though it's a kludge (you can probably see it's a cognate of surquizu's Llibre -- Gaelic isn't a Latin-based language, but a lot of the words regarding knowledge and writing were influenced by the Latin-speaking clerics of the Celtic church), and it's far from the only, ermm, challenge in the translation.

Anyway. Wouldn't it be a nice feature if Rakuten made the UI customisable for language localisation?

[Jellby]

Originally Posted by tshering

The problem is we currently do not know how to activate custom fonts without opening a book.

Do "we" know how to patch or replace the default UI font? I guess it's not as easy as replacing a simple TTF file...

[tshering]

Originally Posted by Jellby

Do "we" know how to patch or replace the default UI font?

With some effort it is feasible to assign one or several fonts to the UI (you can find some materials in the "modification for bad eyes" thread). The problem is that nickel loads only three system fonts. And before opening a book other fonts are not available. To have another font displayed from the start, we would have to replace at least one system font with it.

Originally Posted by Jellby

I guess it's not as easy as replacing a simple TTF file...

Unfortunately, you are right. Attempts to do so have failed up to now.

[Jellby]

Originally Posted by tshering

To have another font displayed from the start, we would have to replace at least one system font with it.

That was my idea, replace one system font with a custom one that's exactly the same, but has some additional "characters" in a private area (like an "ll" ligature), then translated strings could use these characters directly (write "*ibres", where * is the codepoint for this ll ligature), everything else would keep working the same.