For UK buyers - Argos says Kobo's are excluded

[Josieb1]

Thanks for the advice. I've just ordered one from Argos to be delivered tomorrow. Fingers crossed its okay this time.

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Thanks for the advice. I've just ordered one from Argos to be delivered tomorrow. Fingers crossed its okay this time.

I'm guessing 'Patience' isn't your middle name, Josie Anyway, I hope you have better luck this time.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

I'm guessing 'Patience' isn't your middle name, Josie Anyway, I hope you have better luck this time.

No I'm not a patient person especially now I've held one in my hands. Also I've ordered a Kindle Voyage but in preference I'd prefer the H20 so I'd like to decide one way or another before the Voyage is shipped.

I have a PW2 3G that is only 6 months old. I want hubby to have that as I can do with a wifi, he only has the PW1 so if I can get a H20 I'm happy with I can settle for a PW2 wifi.

[jackie_w]

I normally have an anything-but-Kindle approach to readers/apps, but I must say that the Voyage's 6" 300dpi screen with page-turn 'buttons' almost had me interested. However, I know that 10minutes of having to put up with Amazon-knows-best about how text on screen should look would have had me spitting feathers. I see they're about to add that they also know best about light levels. I don't think nanny-Amazon is for me.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

I normally have an anything-but-Kindle approach to readers/apps, but I must say that the Voyage's 6" 300dpi screen with page-turn 'buttons' almost had me interested. However, I know that 10minutes of having to put up with Amazon-knows-best about how text on screen should look would have had me spitting feathers. I see they're about to add that they also know best about light levels. I don't think nanny-Amazon is for me.

I know what you mean, I can't not have a kindle I think their reliability is second to none, plus I use a Kindle when travelling as I review books for a blog and it's so handy being able to email books to my kindle anytime I receive then. I don't have to wait until I get home to use Calibre to get it on my Aura. But I can quite happily do that with a PW I don't need the Voyage. That's why I want hubby to have my 3G PW as the 3G is of no use to me, I can get away with just wifi.

I just want a sharper screen than my current Aura, so that's either the H20 or the Voyage. (I don't want the HD)

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

I see they're about to add that they also know best about light levels. I don't think nanny-Amazon is for me.

The light sensor can be disabled, just as it can on every other device that has such a facility. How about we actually wait and see how well it works, before deriding it?

[Lyn2012]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The light sensor can be disabled, just as it can on every other device that has such a facility. How about we actually wait and see how well it works, before deriding it?

I see what you're saying but I can't see how it can possibly work well for everyone as people have widely differing preferences in lighting levels.

[Lyn2012]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Thanks for the advice. I've just ordered one from Argos to be delivered tomorrow. Fingers crossed its okay this time.

My fingers are crossed for you too.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Lyn2012

I see what you're saying but I can't see how it can possibly work well for everyone as people have widely differing preferences in lighting levels.

No, as you say, it will be set to some average sort of sensitivity. My iPhone has auto brightness-setting which works absolutely fine for me, but I'm sure there are many people who disable it. The point is that it will work fine for many people, and those for whom it doesn't work can set the light level manually, just as they do at the moment. Nobody is any the worse off by the addition of such a facility. To refer to it as a "nanny" facility is just pure Amazon-bashing.

[sparklemotion]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Thanks for the advice. I've just ordered one from Argos to be delivered tomorrow. Fingers crossed its okay this time.

Good luck! Hopefully this one will be perfect!

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The light sensor can be disabled, just as it can on every other device that has such a facility. How about we actually wait and see how well it works, before deriding it?

I've made no comment on how well it will work, it may be perfect. Hopefully it will be. Is it a feature Kindle users have been clamouring for? If so I haven't read about it. My comment reflects my personal opinion (I am allowed those, aren't I?). I know I could switch it off if I wanted. If I was a Kindle customer (which I freely admit I'm not) I think I might have wanted the available development time/money to be channeled into something a bit more interesting or time-saving.

[sparklemotion]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The light sensor can be disabled, just as it can on every other device that has such a facility. How about we actually wait and see how well it works, before deriding it?

I agree. I have the automatic light sensor on my iPad and it works great for me. If it doesn't work to someone's liking, it's easy enough to disable.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

I've made no comment on how well it will work, it may be perfect. Hopefully it will be. Is it a feature Kindle users have been clamouring for? If so I haven't read about it. My comment reflects my personal opinion (I am allowed those, aren't I?). I know I could switch it off if I wanted. If I was a Kindle customer (which I freely admit I'm not) I think I might have wanted the available development time/money to be channeled into something a bit more interesting or time-saving.

If you're the sort of person who reads in widely-varying lighting conditions, and hence changes the light level a lot, such a facility could be extremely useful, don't you think?

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by HarryT

If you're the sort of person who reads in widely-varying lighting conditions, and hence changes the light level a lot, such a facility could be extremely useful, don't you think?

Since you ask, I am such a person and the answer for me is 'No'. Now I suggest we cease this unhelpful conversation.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

Since you ask, I am such a person and the answer for me is 'No'. Now I suggest we cease this unhelpful conversation.

Nope. You don't get to raise points, and then tell other people when they should stop talking about them. That's not how discussion forums work.

Returning to the topic at hand: virtually every phone and LCD tablet has a light sensor to control the level of illumination. In my experience these work pretty well, and it's a natural extension to extend the facility to frontlit eInk devices. I suspect it's something we'll see on a lot more devices in the future.