Amazon removing gay ebooks from their catalog again

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

It all kind of hinges on your definition of discrimination, doesn't it? As far as I can tell; gay, hetero, red, yellow, black and white are all free to purchase anything that Amazon sells.

Nobody has to like it, but there is no valid argument that they're not within their rights to pick and choose what they sell. They could decide to strictly sell paranormal, heterosexual romance and there would be nothing that anybody could do besides "not shop there anymore."

Yes, there is one more thing we can do. It is to alert others that we don't agree with those policies and let Amazon know. Probably precisely what those that have pushed Amazon to remove those items (it must have been some religious fringe groups) have done in the first place. Why shouldn't others react in kind? If you never speak up, businesses will think that they are acting in their best interest.

We simply have to convince Amazon and others that such moves are bad for business.

[Rizla]

What? I can't get my fix of gay smut from Amazon? Then I shall avoid Amazon.

But seriously, this seems prejudiced to me. Have you read any of these so-called romances for women these days? They'll make your toes curl. Total smut...

I think the Amazon censorship is not only absurd but crypto-homophobic. At least I think that's the word. I'm fed up with the gay hating, and I'm straight.

[ps249]

Originally Posted by queentess

Ohhhhhh, nevermind. I thought you were poking fun. Apparently you're just an idiot...

Ohhhh I get it............your a queen.....

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by ps249

Ohhhh I get it............your a queen.....

Can we vote ps249 off the island?

[queentess]

Originally Posted by ps249

Ohhhh I get it............your a queen.....

Y-O-U-'-R-E is "you are", Y-O-U-R is your

[ps249]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Can we vote ps249 off the island?

for what? I didnt say anything derogatory. Amazon is the one who banned the books not me...go complain to them not me. Queentess called me an idiot and I called him a queen based on his name...why not vote queen off? This whole thread should be thrown out. When the gays start complaining that Amazon is banning books with graphic gay scenes--- what do you expect to happen? By the way- last I checked I cannot get Hustler magazine from Amazon on kindle either - so I guess everything is even....

[Worldwalker]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Can we vote ps249 off the island?

You misspelled T-H-R-O-W as V-O-T-E.

[ps249]

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

You misspelled T-H-R-O-W as V-O-T-E.

Trying to get physical?

[GA Russell]

Originally Posted by cfrizz

Live & let live & stop trying to force YOUR personal morals on the rest of the world!

One persons porn, is another persons entertainment, so long as no one is forcing you to buy it, why the hell do you care?

So long as it is not ending up in minors hands (parents need to actually be parents & monitor their children) no harm no foul.

The vast majority of people will not tolerate your (ps249, sunnysmiles) form of censorship.

Pornography has always been illegal in the United States. As far as I know, we still are under the "community standards" test set down by the Supreme Court decades ago. In the US, it is considered by the law to be perfectly legitimate for members of the community to impose their standards regarding pornography.

*****

Actually, judging from the various votes we had a few years ago on gay marriage, I think that the vast majority will not only tolerate but will support ps249 and sunnysmiles. More on this below.

Originally Posted by HansTWN

What we should be angry about is that public pressure by small minorities can get businesses to discriminate so openly.

I don't know anything about Taiwan, but here in the US where Amazon is located, it is the homosexuals who are the small minority. We had votes a few years ago in a number of states to approve gay marriage, and they lost in every state by a landslide. My conclusion is that the vast majority of Americans consider homosexuals to be perverts, and would support the banning of gay porn.

Originally Posted by Vandy

First of all, even if I don't like a particular style of work, pictures, sounds, etc., I shall defend your right to view, draw or listen to it. If I didn't then how could I honestly tell myself I believe in the First Amendment...

Finally, I must agree that it is a sorry state of affairs when a verbal minority can change the business practices of a company.

The First Amendment has never protected pornography.

*****

Here in the US, it's the squeaky wheel that gets the oil. I think that just about every change of every policy regarding just about everything is due to the efforts of a relatively small group of people. If everyone waited for the majority to get off their duffs, nothing would ever happen.

In this case, I suspect the complainers would have the support of the vast majority of the American people. I think I know how a referendum on gay porn would turn out.

Originally Posted by cfrizz

I'm simply a straight woman who doesn't think that people like YOU should be dictating to the rest of us what is porn...

Be very care ps249, not only is your ignorance showing but so is your bigotry against other human beings!

The nature of outlawing porn considering community standards requires that some people's views win out.

*****

If you consider ps249 ignorant and bigoted, I suspect that you would consider the majority of Americans to be as well. Well, Delta is ready when you are, as the saying goes.

Originally Posted by HansTWN

(it must have been some religious fringe groups)

Atheist Hans? Object to religious folks having any say in the matter? Americans who object to gay porn must be religious fringe? I don't think that you have your finger on the pulse of the American people.

[wyndslash]

huh...well, fictionwise does offer bigger coupons anyway *shrug*

[wyndslash]

Originally Posted by astrangerhere

to expanding your horizons. who knows, maybe i'll join you. my partner already reads some, i know. maybe i'll just borrow some of hers.

i read some when i'm bored, but like WW says, it does nothing for me too. as for yaoi manga, i usually buy mine at kinokuniya in singapore, anyway. it's cheaper and i usually get the original japanese version.

plus, i've read tons of yaoi before, and most have more of a storyline than many hentai, which skips right to the lovin'

[Seabound]

Originally Posted by GA Russell

Actually, judging from the various votes we had a few years ago on gay marriage, I think that the vast majority will not only tolerate but will support ps249 and sunnysmiles. More on this below.

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If you consider ps249 ignorant and bigoted, I suspect that you would consider the majority of Americans to be as well.

Ding ding ding ding ding.

[Seabound]

Originally Posted by wyndslash

huh...well, fictionwise does offer bigger coupons anyway *shrug*

35% off this weekend. Coupon code '050611'. Not much I want to buy there nowadays, though.

Originally Posted by wyndslash

i read some when i'm bored, but like WW says, it does nothing for me too. as for yaoi manga, i usually buy mine at kinokuniya in singapore, anyway. it's cheaper and i usually get the original japanese version.

plus, i've read tons of yaoi before, and most have more of a storyline than many hentai, which skips right to the lovin'

You speak Japanese, then?

[montsnmags]

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[carld]

Pornography is not illegal. And, thank God we have the rule of law to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

btw: Internet pornography is more popular in states that have legislated against things like gay marriage.