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Old 04-05-2017, 04:00 PM   #46
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And even less screen brightness and more room light.

Both screens now so low brightness that shadows can be cast upon them.

Note that their sliders have a different sensitivity scale, and that the whitebalance on the Kobo can be tweaked.

Pure white reference on the chocolate wrapping above them.

I dont really know what this picture is supposed to prove here...
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Old 04-05-2017, 04:15 PM   #47
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That blue screen reminds me of the first few Voyages I saw in different stores a couple years ago. It wasn't until I saw a better whiter screen much later at another store last year, then I decided to go ahead and order one, the one they sent was also whiter, they can vary quite a bit.
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Old 04-05-2017, 04:17 PM   #48
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And even less screen brightness and more room light.

Both screens now so low brightness that shadows can be cast upon them.

Note that their sliders have a different sensitivity scale, and that the whitebalance on the Kobo can be tweaked.

Pure white reference on the chocolate wrapping above them.

I dont really know what this picture is supposed to prove here...
For me, it's all about the contrast. From your pictures, the Voyage would win every time for my eyes.

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Old 04-05-2017, 05:19 PM   #49
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I must say, BTW, that in the picture in your previous message, my personal preference is for the Kindle screen by far. I would not personally wish to read on an orange screen.
Yes its subjective for sure. But also note that the Kobo can be set to be just as blue as the Kindle.

About the contrast, Id rate them equally.

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That blue screen reminds me of the first few Voyages I saw in different stores a couple years ago. It wasn't until I saw a better whiter screen much later at another store last year, then I decided to go ahead and order one, the one they sent was also whiter, they can vary quite a bit.
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Having a bright light is not a desirable goal, though. With any reader you should be aiming for the lowest light level that allows you to see the screen clearly. If the screen appears to be "shining", your light is almost certainly set at too high a level.
Unless you're reading in pitch darkness, of course. For me, I find that in that case setting the Oasis at about 6 is right for me: on the old PW1, it was about 2 (but of course the PW1's 0 setting was actually lit at about the same as the Oasis's level 4). It also depends on how much your eyes have adjusted to the dark...

If you *do* have external light, the internal light should be set just high enough that the background appears white, not grey: no higher. Its job is to whiten the background and improve contrast, not act as a light shining unpleasantly into your eyes.
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Or just get the person taking the photos to tell us how accurate they are.
That's not enough -- the *viewer's screen* needs to be colour-calibrated and at the right gamma. Almost nobody's are.
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Please post a picture!
Here you go. First time posting a pic, probably not that great. This is my voyage light set at 12.
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Here you go. First time posting a pic, probably not that great. This is my voyage light set at 12.
Many of the eye sight conditions that would require setting the font to that size also make changes to your color perception and sensitivity.

So you might well be seeing a version of the screen that other people don't see.

Also, part of the "discoloration" of that picture is an artifact of the lighting and a "too smart" automated camera.
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Many of the eye sight conditions that would require setting the font to that size also make changes to your color perception and sensitivity.

So you might well be seeing a version of the screen that other people don't see.

Also, part of the "discoloration" of that picture is an artifact of the lighting and a "too smart" automated camera.
That's true these pictures almost never come out as we see them. And thanks for not mentioning that it's sideways

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Here you go. First time posting a pic, probably not that great. This is my voyage light set at 12.
Color accurate or not, I admit that certainly looks better than mine!
That said, I still find it too blue for my liking. Thats why I love the KA1 so much. I wish a whitebalance slider was industry standard in these devices.
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That's true these pictures almost never come out as we see them.
And thanks for not mentioning that it's sideways
Sideways is just fine, my PC monitor is "sideways".

The Kindle is a very difficult subject as far as lighting goes since it both reflects light and emits light.
At least it isn't hard to pose, it does hold still for as long as you need.
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By chance, does anyone have a comparison of two voyages from different years? Something like 2014 and 2016?

I was sold a 2014 Voyage from Amazon last month and it seems I was given left over stock, but I wonder if they quietly improved things for later batches
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Color accurate or not, I admit that certainly looks better than mine!
That said, I still find it too blue for my liking. Thats why I love the KA1 so much. I wish a whitebalance slider was industry standard in these devices.
Yes that would be helpful . Also more font choices like Kobo . Kindles has only had the same few font sizes for years. I keep hoping they will add a few more.
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Having a bright light is not a desirable goal, though. With any reader you should be aiming for the lowest light level that allows you to see the screen clearly. If the screen appears to be "shining", your light is almost certainly set at too high a level.

I must say, BTW, that in the picture in your previous message, my personal preference is for the Kindle screen by far. I would not personally wish to read on an orange screen.
But, you can turn down the amount of the orange color. It's there to prevent what you see on the Kindle which is a blue light. If the blue light is a bother, then the orange light can help with that.
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