Amazon announces Kindle Oasis

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

There is no clip-on light that I've seen that works as well as a front light. I've had Sony's light covers and while they worked, they didn't work as well as a front light.

Exactly my point. A clip on light is different technology than a frontlight. Amazon frontlight is different from Kobo frontlight. Only because they both use leds doesn't make them the same. Why does one combustion engine have more horsepower than one from a different manufacturer even though displacement is the same?

[MikeB1972]

Originally Posted by aceflor

PS: Although 2NA made me laugh. I am a very good public... (translated from : je suis bon public, as I have no idea if there is a similar expression in english).

Originally Posted by ApK

"I am easily amused" would probably be the most appropriate English idiom in this case. There is a closer English idiom for the OPPOSITE : "A tough room."

This might be a fun tangent to explore in the Writer's forum.

ApK

I'd translate it more as "I am easily pleased" but, yeah, amused works as well, it's one of those 'depends on context' translations.

More literally it would be "I am a good audience", although we would be more likely to use "I make a good audience".

[Shane R]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

We need sales figures to know how well the Oasis is selling. Amazon dominates the market but which of their eink devices dominates sales.

I don't care about that. I think it will be, by design, a low volume mover compared to it's downmarket brethern.

Which Kindle model is waterproof? If none, and Kindle is the best selling e-ink device, is the market really demanding waterproofing?

Aftermarket waterproofing is available, by the way.

[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by ApK

Ah. NOW I understand why Shane called it an oversimplification.

OK, yeah, you're right. It's a just repackaging.

Just like any PC software is just a repackaging of all other PC software because it use that same old x86 instruction set.

Just like you are a repackaging of a turnip because you are made of only those same old protons, neutrons and electrons that everyone uses!

Except software does different things with that code being used in new and different ways. Same goes for the turnip and human since for sake of civility I presume you were using the plural you.

The voyage and oasis do the same thing with essentially the same parts. Yes the oasis has some extra bits thrown in but they add nothing new and at best questionable improvements over the voyage.

[Yolina]

Originally Posted by Shane R

I love the juxtaposition of the question here and the 'pre-order this item' button.

I just skimmed through a few of the posts, someone made a good point saying that KU should be included. If they were to throw in 12 months worth of KU (and maybe some tuna) I'm sure they'd do much better. Wondering if something like that isn't likely to happen in the UK given how badly pre-orders seem to be doing (based on my totally unscientific 'chuck things in basket, see what delivery date it gives me')

[jackie_w]

Speculating about battery consumption ...

In 2010 I bought a Pocketbook 360 which, as others have already said, had the asymmetric page turn buttons plus an accelerometer so the text was always the right way up when you swapped hands. I thought it was cool.

Unfortunately my experience was that having the accelerometer enabled made the battery drain much faster - to the point where I was obsessively rechecking the battery level - not ideal when trying to enjoy a book. In the end I had to disable the accelerometer feature for peace of mind.

Has power management technology improved a lot in the last six years? If not the 250mAh for the case-less Oasis doesn't sound like much battery life.

[DreamWriter]

Originally Posted by Yolina

Not when it's asymmetrical and your brain is having a hard time coping with that. I've had to look at soothing pictures of symmetrical patterns after watching some of the Oasis videos.

Like you, I have a strong preference for symmetry, but the device's lopsidedness isn't bothering me as much as expected.

Since my hand/thumb would partially cover the wider side, I anticipate that my brain might perceive the screen as more centered. I could be wrong about that, though; I'd have to try it. The Oasis looks like it's easier to hold, which for me is a huge plus. I'm not tempted to buy one, though. Too pricey for my budget.

[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by Shane R

I don't care about that. I think it will be, by design, a low volume mover compared to it's downmarket brethern.

Which Kindle model is waterproof? If none, and Kindle is the best selling e-ink device, is the market really demanding waterproofing?

Aftermarket waterproofing is available, by the way.

If depends on if adding waterproofing would have resulted in more sales. Being number one is good, but no business wants to ignore more sales potential

[Yolina]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

If not the 250mAh for the case-less Oasis doesn't sound like much battery life.

It's not, but then that way the next 'super extra special premium' model to come out can have a 500mAh battery and everybody will be gushing over the improved battery life

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by Shane R

Aftermarket waterproofing is available, by the way.

Not for my Kindle 7; only the Paperwhite.

Before I'll pay a premium price for an ereader, Amazon needs to add both waterproofing and a flexible substrate. Not one, but both.

[latepaul]

Quick question: who on this thread has experience of design and manufacture of electronic devices, especially ones with complex circuit boards (phones, tablets etc)?

I just need to know who to take seriously when they talk about it being "easy" to put the same set of components in a smaller case.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by latepaul

Quick question: who on this thread has experience of design and manufacture of electronic devices, especially ones with complex circuit boards (phones, tablets etc)?

I just need to know who to take seriously when they talk about it being "easy" to put the same set of components in a smaller case.

Not me; but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

Spoiler:

[Purple Lady]

Why is Amazon calling this a premium reader? With phones or tablets premium usually means better build materials, better resolution, better processor, more memory and more storage. I don't see where the Oasis has any of these.

I was thinking that more LEDs might be considered premium, but if they are on the side instead of the bottom you have to have more or else it would look bad. The design is different, but I didn't think it would be called premium. So what's premium about this device?

[Shane R]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

If depends on if adding waterproofing would have resulted in more sales.

What if the added weight and price would have cost them sales?

[Conan46]

Still say it's ugly, and now I'll add overpriced. The tapering on it will not allow it to lie flat on a table without the cover. They have just shifted the weight/battery to the cover from the sound of it. My prediction: Amazon Phone Fiasco 2.0 - overpriced device that appeals to few customers.
At least I still have my Paperwhite 3.