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Old 04-14-2016, 11:45 AM   #556
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Voyage: Narrower, taller, heavier. Not easy to pop in and out of the case so you will probably be using it with case on. Origami case lets you prop it up. Battery is sufficient for most needs.
Eh? It's super easy to pop the Voyage out of the official case, just a gentle push with your thumb at the bottom .
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:47 AM   #557
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Then pray tell of the -new- or advanced components of the Oasis.
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it doesn't have any new features, only a redesign
The cult of 'technological innovation' strikes again.

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Old 04-14-2016, 11:49 AM   #558
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Yep, they were required because of the design.
But 10 is more than 6
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:50 AM   #559
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"Design is how it works, not how it looks."

If you can afford it, and you don't mind that it doesn't have any new features, only a redesign, then you should give it a shot.
That makes little sense. If you take aesthetics out of the picture and say design is only part of how it works, then a redesign is essentially a different new feature, because it works different. Design is both, function and looks.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:51 AM   #560
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Isn't it quite obvious? Kobo does lighting better. What if all of a sudden Amazon does lighting just as good? You would cry that they stole Kobo's technology, illegally reverse engineered. Oasis lighting is not Voyage lighting with more leds, it is different. A clip on booklight only needs 1 led, why can't Kobo light the screen with 1 led?
There is no clip-on light that I've seen that works as well as a front light. I've had Sony's light covers and while they worked, they didn't work as well as a front light.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:52 AM   #561
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Okay, I see the Oasis images you're referring to on the top left of the product page. In particular, the shadows on photo #6 (the one with page-turn buttons on the left) certainly do minimize the wider side.
Most of those images have clever placement of cover/shadows that to an extent minimise the wider side. I think it's very telling that the promo shots are done that way. Only in the first one do you really see properly how much wider one side is
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:52 AM   #562
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Maybe, but we'll never know for sure because of Amazon's reticence to release sales figures.
We need sales figures to know that Amazon is the best selling e-ink reader?
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:52 AM   #563
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But 10 is more than 6
Sounds like the scene in This is Spinal Tap where 11 is more than 10 on the amp.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:54 AM   #564
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But 10 is more than 6
Buuuuuuuuuuuuut I wanted 12. No sale
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:54 AM   #565
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The cult of 'technological innovation' strikes again.
So in other words you can't back up your statements with facts.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:55 AM   #566
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The H2O only has 6 LEDs at the bottom. How is it the H2O is able to light the screen without cones of light with a 6.8" screen and Amazon needs 10 LEDs to get a light with no cones? I don't get this.
If Kobo was lighting from the long side of the screen as opposed to the bottom then 6 might not be enough for them to get the lighting right either, hard to say. We also don't know the specs of the LED's used in either case, plus 10 sounds better to the marketing dept.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:57 AM   #567
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I love the juxtaposition of the question here and the 'pre-order this item' button.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:58 AM   #568
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Then pray tell of the -new- or advanced components of the Oasis.
Ah. NOW I understand why Shane called it an oversimplification.

OK, yeah, you're right. It's a just repackaging.

Just like any PC software is just a repackaging of all other PC software because it use that same old x86 instruction set.

Just like you are a repackaging of a turnip because you are made of only those same old protons, neutrons and electrons that everyone uses!
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:58 AM   #569
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We need sales figures to know that Amazon is the best selling e-ink reader?
We need sales figures to know how well the Oasis is selling. Amazon dominates the market but which of their eink devices dominates sales.
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Old 04-14-2016, 12:00 PM   #570
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We need sales figures to know that Amazon is the best selling e-ink reader?
We need figures to compare sales within their product line. Is the Oasis a hit? Compared to what? How many units did they have on hand upon initial release? How does that compare to other first day releases?, etc, etc.
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