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Old 10-03-2011, 07:59 PM   #556
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i had to get a ruler out and give my dad flashbacks to catholic school in order to get him to stop touching his screen.

now windows 8 will come along and will undo it all.
From reports outlined by our IT department at work, Windows 8 will be the new Vista.

So that wooden ruler might need to become a barge pole in regards to Windows 8
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How are you measuring that blow?

Hardware specs or sales?
That's such a massive hypothetical that it's not even worth addressing. A hybrid LED/E-ink screen? Just a tich unlikely. And I suspect that B&N and Amazon (and most other businesses) have enough connections that they have some idea as to what technologies are soon to be released.

Frankly, even if they did release such a device, I suspect that the price would leave it in similar circumstances as the Kindle DX--something that is relatively unique and is quite useful, but which is too expensive to create much demand.
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From reports outlined by our IT department at work, Windows 8 will be the new Vista.
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So, to lay it all out, we have x86 laptop-replacement Windows 8 tablets on the top end for around $800, the content consumption iPad for anything between $500 and $800, and the content consumption Kindle Fire for $200. Can you spot the odd one out?

When the Kindle Fire comes out on November 15, the iPad — which is currently the most desirable and functional tablet on the market — will very quickly assume an unstable position as the very expensive alternative to the Kindle Fire. Then, when Windows 8 is released in 2012, the iPad will occupy an untenable and almost-defunct position in the middle of the pack. It’s the classic pincer movement!
http://www.extremetech.com/computing...-kill-the-ipad
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Well from reports I have read, the Kindle fire is available only in the US and not the rest of the world, being tied directly and closely into Amazon's ecosystem.

At this time, the iPad is still the best tablet for Aussie coin.

When shopping around for a tablet, the various Android tablets I looked out varied from bloody awful to nice. The Acer Iconia for instance. The Galaxy tab is not available here due to Apple's legal machinations, so for me at least, the iPad got the gong.
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The term notebook is used a lot for a small laptop.
Yeah though Netbooks are the smallest they about the size of a book. My screen is like 10", my sisters is 8". Originally bought to read ebooks on. The glare is ridiculous on it. My sisters got hers for free through one of those prize arcades. She loves it. Mine I bought at Best Buy and was waste of money. $400 All it's good for is not much. Well it run Calibre so I guess that's something.

I'm glad LCD Tablets don't have the glare problem as much which makes me want a Kindle Fire but my mom has won a Crystal view tablet and I'm waiting to see if it worth keeping or go with the Fire. It's android 2.1 but I've yet to see one good review on it. I still read nightly on 3.2" screen before bed.
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They use virtual keyboards and I've seen very few people now with netbooks out and about and more with Ipads or Tablets that have very little buttons. Do people even use Laptops anymore? My doctors carries around a tiny netbook instead of a paper file and on campus it's netbooks you see or tablets now.
I work at a university and I see many more laptops than I do tablets or netbooks. The laptops are mostly MacBook Pro or MacBook Air 13 Inch models, so they are still quite portable.
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I am seeing it's a local thing around here. That shouldn't surprise me. It's still odd trying to talk to your doctor and you wonder is she playing solitaire or really looking with her stylus at my records. She seems distracted.
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Yeah though Netbooks are the smallest they about the size of a book. My screen is like 10", my sisters is 8". Originally bought to read ebooks on. The glare is ridiculous on it. My sisters got hers for free through one of those prize arcades. She loves it. Mine I bought at Best Buy and was waste of money. $400 All it's good for is not much. Well it run Calibre so I guess that's something.

I'm glad LCD Tablets don't have the glare problem as much which makes me want a Kindle Fire but my mom has won a Crystal view tablet and I'm waiting to see if it worth keeping or go with the Fire. It's android 2.1 but I've yet to see one good review on it. I still read nightly on 3.2" screen before bed.
For those of us who have worked a while with computers, we were used to seeing the smallest computers "notebooks" costing $1,500 to $2,500 and up and these had 10 to 12 inch screens.

It was kind of funny when they "invented" the Netbook with a 10" screen and sold it for $300 to $500.

A Dell Latitude, 12.1" that you might use in a corporation would cost a minimum of $1,200 unless on sale, and would run configured about $1,600 to $2,000.
Similarly a Toshiba.

You could always get a Sony VAIO or other small one from Sony or a favorite of mine: Jujitsu.

Jujitsu.

http://www.shopfujitsu.com/express_buy/index.php

starting Ready to Ship at Discount Price
Lifebook Notebooks
P701 - $999 to $1,699 (12.1")
T731 - $1,549 ( 12.1")
T580 - $999 (10.1)

Lifebook T730 Tablet PC
T730 - $1,199 to $1,749 (12.1")

Other notebooks and Table PCs
Most at 12.1" and 10.1"

http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Eco...-notebooks.jsp
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It seems like 4th generation of Kindle's have poorer screen than 3rd.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...er,3040-3.html

comparison pic by theonna @ the ebook org (Sony T1 has "old" Pearl):


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For those of us who have worked a while with computers, we were used to seeing the smallest computers "notebooks" costing $1,500 to $2,500 and up and these had 10 to 12 inch screens.

It was kind of funny when they "invented" the Netbook with a 10" screen and sold it for $300 to $500.

A Dell Latitude, 12.1" that you might use in a corporation would cost a minimum of $1,200 unless on sale, and would run configured about $1,600 to $2,000.
Similarly a Toshiba.

You could always get a Sony VAIO or other small one from Sony or a favorite of mine: Jujitsu.

Jujitsu.

http://www.shopfujitsu.com/express_buy/index.php

starting Ready to Ship at Discount Price
Lifebook Notebooks
P701 - $999 to $1,699 (12.1")
T731 - $1,549 ( 12.1")
T580 - $999 (10.1)

Lifebook T730 Tablet PC
T730 - $1,199 to $1,749 (12.1")

Other notebooks and Table PCs
Most at 12.1" and 10.1"

http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Eco...-notebooks.jsp
I had no idea. I wonder if the netbook my doctor carries around cost that much. It is a touch screen what the clinic people use. Last time I was there my doc's netbook screen suddenly fell back and it almost crashed to the floor. My heart stopped and I jumped to grabbed it but she caught it first.
She yelled at me about being too jumpy and told me to relax. I told her "I am not jumpy. I just almost saw $600 dollars crash to the floor!" Some people just don't understand the affinity I have with computers.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...er,3040-3.html

comparison pic by theonna @ the ebook org (Sony T1 has "old" Pearl):

Another blog said that too. If it turns out my K4 looks like that I think I will be canceling the touch and getting a T1.
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I had no idea. I wonder if the netbook my doctor carries around cost that much. It is a touch screen what the clinic people use. Last time I was there my doc's netbook screen suddenly fell back and it almost crashed to the floor. My heart stopped and I jumped to grabbed it but she caught it first.
She yelled at me about being too jumpy and told me to relax. I told her "I am not jumpy. I just almost saw $600 dollars crash to the floor!" Some people just don't understand the affinity I have with computers.
If I had to guess I would say it cost 3 times that $600 = $1,800.

Yes the doctors (and others) use the touch screens. One reason is to avoid the mouse or the keyboard pad or pointer.
You wish to put some data or a comment in a box, and you touch it with your finger and the cursor goes there, and then you start typing.

We have used touch screen in industry, in the military, in cockpits, instrument panels for 20 years or more. There were different kinds, but they only became really prolific between 1995 and 2000. You could move a machine around, a robot arm, and select settings or put the data in. Old school. The really new uses are for the public, say the last 5 or 6 years.

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Then you should know that they were called subnotebooks. My Dell Latitude 420 is a subnotebook and not a notebook. Notebook is just another word for laptop.
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Then you should know that they were called subnotebooks. My Dell Latitude 420 is a subnotebook and not a notebook. Notebook is just another word for laptop.
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