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Old 11-20-2010, 09:58 PM   #481
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Not sure that it is a good thing for younger people to have such direct access though.
I don't see many younger people buying porn from Amazon when there is a nigh infinite amount of it free on the internet.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:18 PM   #482
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I don't see many younger people buying porn from Amazon when there is a nigh infinite amount of it free on the internet.
True, but people get all kind of viruses (how appropriate) when they go into dirty sites. This way, if mum asks them what site they are on, they can always say "just looking at Amazon books mum" and mother walks away pleased as punch that their child is keen on literature.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:24 PM   #483
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After all, I'm sure there will be people who say that Jews are Christ killers and should have no rights
Let's not go there. Religion is not something that can always be argued about without getting heated.

And if you go from the Jewish perspective, Christ was not the son of God and that new testament part of the Bible is pure fiction.

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Old 11-20-2010, 10:31 PM   #484
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Yeah, I know it isnt what I think - my point is that in the creation of those mags, no individual was coerced into doing anything. This book though, instructs pedophiles how to interfere with children. its very intent, if people follow what it says to do, WILL harm children. It isnt what I think, it is actually what happens....
As you say, "it is actually what happens."

And as others have already pointed out, the book itself has not acted and thus nothing has happened.

If someone acts based on the advice meted out by the book and runs afoul of the criminal code, then they will be prosecuted accordingly.

Just as if someone, in accordance with biblical teachings, killed their bride after discovering that she is not a virgin, we would prosecute him for the perpetrated crime, and leave the "Holy Book" alone.

It's really as simple as that.

BTW, for those unaware, Amazon is largest seller of sex toys in the world. Worse than Sodom
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:41 PM   #485
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As you say, "it is actually what happens."

And as others have already pointed out, the book itself has not acted and thus nothing has happened.

If someone acts based on the advice meted out by the book and runs afoul of the criminal code, then they will be prosecuted accordingly.

Just as if someone, in accordance with biblical teachings, killed their bride after discovering that she is not a virgin, we would prosecute him for the perpetrated crime, and leave the "Holy Book" alone.

It's really as simple as that.

BTW, for those unaware, Amazon is largest seller of sex toys in the world. Worse than Sodom
O gawd, I am not checking out the sex toys thing; my Amazon page will be disgusting. Thanks for your persistence in explaining it all Sonist, I understand what you are saying, even if I dont like it and dont think it is a good thing. And maybe not even what the "First Amendment" creators thought when they wrote it.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:48 PM   #486
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I don't see many younger people buying porn from Amazon when there is a nigh infinite amount of it free on the internet.
Many parents check their kid's internet history on their computers along with put down child locks.

I wonder how many of them would think to check the kindle?
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:39 AM   #487
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The point is that it keeps getting adapted to the needs of the modern world.
Freedom of speech is the fundamentals of freedom at all.
One day they will say that the modern world needs Big Brother. Will you emrace it with joy?
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:44 AM   #488
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Just think about that whole TSA pat down bullcrap.

It is funny that we are willing to give up our freedoms to get to our vacations quicker
I don't know what is the "TSA pat down bullcrap", neither i gave up my freedom to get to my vacation quicker. Can you please explain your message?
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And applying such methods to someone (as opposed to writing about how to apply these) is a criminal assault, you know.
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Aint no argument from me on these points. Weird things are allowed to happen in the name of religion; however, from your previous comments about not banning any books, and taking on this "First Amendment" stance, then it is fine for religious books to be written about it, and telling people how to do it!
And what if i worship Flying Pedobear Monster? Why scientology is considered to be a religion, and Flying Pedobear Monster Covenant is not?
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:22 AM   #490
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Weird things are allowed to happen in the name of religion; however, from your previous comments about not banning any books, and taking on this "First Amendment" stance, then it is fine for religious books to be written about it, and telling people how to do it!
Write all the books about it you want, but actually cutting baby's penises and then sucking them is a whole different ballgame.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:33 AM   #491
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Let's not go there. Religion is not something that can always be argued about without getting heated.
I would say this whole thread is already there
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:44 PM   #492
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Maybe this thread should be moved to the debate subforum since it turned into a first amendment debate.

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Let's not go there. Religion is not something that can always be argued about without getting heated.

And if you go from the Jewish perspective, Christ was not the son of God and that new testament part of the Bible is pure fiction.
what a bunch of self indulgent tripe, this is where you choose to now draw the line in this thread? You know considering the very topic of this alleged intellectual debate centers around the rape of children and all. I shake my head in disgust at this thread being allowed to flourish as it has...it does not belong on the main portion of this site.

You have got to be kidding.
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Old 11-21-2010, 04:06 PM   #494
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what a bunch of self indulgent tripe, this is where you choose to now draw the line in this thread? You know considering the very topic of this alleged intellectual debate centers around the rape of children and all. I shake my head in disgust at this thread being allowed to flourish as it has...it does not belong on the main portion of this site.

You have got to be kidding.
Apparently it is ok unless you can actually name the victims and it has actually happened. Talking about is permissible. I don't get it either but hey, freedom of speech and all that.
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... You know considering the very topic of this alleged intellectual debate centers around the rape of children and all. ...
Uhm..., righteous indignation and insults notwithstanding, the topic actually centers around whether a book should be removed or banned based on its subject, or based on how much public opposition there is to it.

The actual subject of the book in question is ultimately irrelevant to the discussion.
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