iOS9 Release

Originally Posted by HarryT

I've been using iTunes on Windows for many years, and I like it a lot. Never had a problem, other than one upgrade which failed to install due to a bug in the installation package. I like it a lot. Perhaps the Mac version is buggier?

I'm not talking about it being buggie. I'm saying it is a poorly written app and rather useless. I don't think iTunes has ever done WiFi backups well whether on my Macs or my Windows PCs. I only do wired backups now as it messes up more often than not with WiFi. And it has always been slower than fingernail growth.

Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

Can't you choose not to back up the apps? There is a dialog box but I always choose yes. I like having a backup of my apps in case an upgrade goes wrong. I restored the old version of an app recently when I didn't like the upgrade.

Yes you can, but then that dialog will appear reminding you to backup your apps. And it seems that if I don't back up the apps the backup doesn't record the time correctly, leading me to wonder what else it messed up. It messed up my first backup this morning claiming it lost connection even though it was still connected via USB cable. I had to run it again and that time it recorded the correct time.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by jswinden

I'm not talking about it being buggie. I'm saying it is a poorly written app and rather useless. I don't think iTunes has ever done WiFi backups well whether on my Macs or my Windows PCs. I only do wired backups now as it messes up more often than not with WiFi. And it has always been slower than fingernail growth.

Understood. These days I do Cloud backups direct from the device; I no longer do iTunes backups to my local hard disk. They did used to take an eternity, I agree.

[Josieb1]

My Updates are working fine now and all my devices are still on 8.4.1. I think the Update's grey out on the devices when the itunes servers can't take any more update requests.

Originally Posted by HarryT

Understood. These days I do Cloud backups direct from the device; I no longer do iTunes backups to my local hard disk. They did used to take an eternity, I agree.

I need to switch over to the iCloud, just haven't taken the time. HDD backups are terrible.

Originally Posted by Josieb1

My Updates are working fine now and all my devices are still on 8.4.1. I think the Update's grey out on the devices when the itunes servers can't take any more update requests.

I used iTunes with a wired connection to update to 9. It paused/froze for about 20 minutes at one point making me think it had failed, but then it finally started moving again and got the update finished. I think like you said it was just Apple's notoriously slow servers being pushed beyond the limit.

I'm going to wait until I hear other people using iOS9 on the original iPad Mini Retina before I even try to install it on mine. I'm worried the older device might slow down too much. I also want to test it out on my iPhone 6+ and get to know all about it first. So far so good, no glaring issues...

[kyteflyer]

I have it on my iPad mini original (not retina) and its fine. YMMV.

I've been doing OTA updates lately and find that far less aggravating than doing a full update via itunes.

Originally Posted by kyteflyer

I have it on my iPad mini original (not retina) and its fine. YMMV.

I've been doing OTA updates lately and find that far less aggravating than doing a full update via itunes.

This was the first time I tried an update via wired connection to iTunes, and the LAST. I went ahead and updated my iPad Mini Retina original too, but I used the OTA method. It went very smoothly compared to the iTunes method I tried with my iPhone 6+.

[HarryT]

OTA updates just download a "delta" from the current firmware. iTunes always downloads a complete system image, so OTA updating is generally a lot quicker and requires less free space.

[kyteflyer]

The main advantage of doing the iTunes update is that the full .ipsw is downloaded and cached, so if you had to restore, you don't have to redownload. If my 3 devices needed restoring now, I would have to have a complete download for each of them. Hmm... maybe I should have done that.

After 24 hours of use I find that I am neither impressed nor annoyed by anything much (except being able to use Stanza to my satisfaction, again, though on the Mini, some of the settings simply arent there. The app doesnt crash, you just can't access the same settings that are available on iphone. This may always have been the case, I never used it for more than checking that it works with new firmwares)

Originally Posted by kyteflyer

The main advantage of doing the iTunes update is that the full .ipsw is downloaded and cached, so if you had to restore, you don't have to redownload. If my 3 devices needed restoring now, I would have to have a complete download for each of them. Hmm... maybe I should have done that.

After 24 hours of use I find that I am neither impressed nor annoyed by anything much (except being able to use Stanza to my satisfaction, again, though on the Mini, some of the settings simply arent there. The app doesnt crash, you just can't access the same settings that are available on iphone. This may always have been the case, I never used it for more than checking that it works with new firmwares)

Yep not much to get excited about in iOS 9 versus iOS 8, but at least getting the update will keep the constant reminders to update from annoying me. Not sure if they still do that, but in the past those constant reminders were a great annoyance.

A bit disappointed that the split screen feature won't work on my iPad Mini 2 as it requires the iPad Mini 4. Also still very annoyed that they have never placed a fourth roll of keys on the keyboard for numbers. Having to constantly toggle back and forth between number screen and letter screen is so 1990s! Especially annoying and a PITA when entering passwords which nearly always contain both letters and numbers.

ETA: Also annoyed that they still have some stupid wallpaper algorithm that seems to only work with Apple's official wallpapers. If you rotate the iPhone/iPad from portrait to landscape with one of the iOS wallpapers installed, the wallpaper stays the same size. But if you use a custom wallpaper then rotating into landscape causes the wallpaper image to get zoomed. Really distracting, really unnecessary, and really aggrevating that they have to exercise so much control even over the GD wallpapers! Must be the ghost of Steve Jobs giving us the middle finger.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Also still very annoyed that they have never placed a fourth roll of keys on the keyboard for numbers. Having to constantly toggle back and forth between number screen and letter screen is so 1990s! Especially annoying and a PITA when entering passwords which nearly always contain both letters and numbers.

You can install third-party keyboards (since iOS 8, I think?) to do this.

[FlorenceArt]

Originally Posted by jswinden

ETA: Also annoyed that they still have some stupid wallpaper algorithm that seems to only work with Apple's official wallpapers. If you rotate the iPhone/iPad from portrait to landscape with one of the iOS wallpapers installed, the wallpaper stays the same size. But if you use a custom wallpaper then rotating into landscape causes the wallpaper image to get zoomed. Really distracting, really unnecessary, and really aggrevating that they have to exercise so much control even over the GD wallpapers! Must be the ghost of Steve Jobs giving us the middle finger.

I don't have that problem, the image doesn't resize when rotating the screen (or did I misunderstand you?) Could it be a problem with the size of your image? Mine was created on an iPad app, so it's exactly the same pixel size as my screen, which means it must be enlarged to be used as a wallpaper, but I don't see any problem with the image quality. When I rotate the iPad, a different area of the image is visible on screen to adapt to the ratio, but the image size is unchanged (I measured it).

[rootandroid]

What are the new things on the latest update of iOS?Ii am still waiting for the new update for Android the Marshmallow

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Is anyone having issues updating apps? My Air says 19 updates are available but when I g to the update page the Update All is greyed out and the apps say Open not Update. I updated all the apps via iTunes last night then synced the Air but it didn't update the Air.

I'm still on 8.4.1, not updated to 9 yet

I had the same thing with 12 apps. I did go to iOS 9 and they eventually were able to be updated.

[JSWolf]

If you want to make 100% sure you have a backup of your device, use iTunes on a computer to backup your device. You will not lose that backup.

[Kai Winters]

My dl and install went easily. My iTunes is having a problem recognizing my purchases when synching/backing up my 6+ but otherwise no problems and all is working a bit better than the previous edition.
I've not used it enough to notice better battery usage but I have noticed that the phone seems to run a bit faster and with better reception then previously...especially in my workplace where I barely got one bar...old concrete and steel building...I now have two bars normally.

I did have to go through all my apps and settings to make sure I have only the services running I want...Apple seems to love turning every service for every app to full use so it takes a bit of time, not wasted time, to go through everything.

iTunes has never been as user friendly or user manageable as it could be...seems Apple likes it that way but imo it is still better than anything else out there that I have tried to meet my needs and desires so I "conform" to the Apple way...